Hong-Kong Protests

supersnoop

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Maybe Grandma Wong will finally get a sedition charge. I think she might be bit crazy or lonely and got addicted to her fame from the protesters/rioters 4 years ago. It's one thing being an online troll, but being real life troll isn't free though.

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Doubtful. As the west willfully ignores, the HK Courts are in fact, following the rule of law.
The verdicts and findings are published and in accordance with British legal principles.
In that big case that recently closed, a couple of defendants were acquitted which means people are not being rounded up and tortured/disappeared as popularly portrayed in the media.

That old lady is likely just an lonely attention seeker who doesn't actively collaborate with foreigners or taking money in. The latter is how many of these are caught and found guilty since the money trails are not well hidden.
 

MwRYum

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Maybe Grandma Wong will finally get a sedition charge. I think she might be bit crazy or lonely and got addicted to her fame from the protesters/rioters 4 years ago. It's one thing being an online troll, but being real life troll isn't free though.

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The only thing that hag will ever get is some minor charge(s) and a few nights in the slammer.
Doubtful. As the west willfully ignores, the HK Courts are in fact, following the rule of law.
The verdicts and findings are published and in accordance with British legal principles.
In that big case that recently closed, a couple of defendants were acquitted which means people are not being rounded up and tortured/disappeared as popularly portrayed in the media.

That old lady is likely just an lonely attention seeker who doesn't actively collaborate with foreigners or taking money in. The latter is how many of these are caught and found guilty since the money trails are not well hidden.
Like I've always said for the last 5 years, the government need "loyalist militia" for such dirty job, alas HKSARG and Beijing are equally gutless in this regard.
 

Wrought

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The only thing that hag will ever get is some minor charge(s) and a few nights in the slammer.

Like I've always said for the last 5 years, the government need "loyalist militia" for such dirty job, alas HKSARG and Beijing are equally gutless in this regard.

I don't get it, why would you need any "loyalist militia." It's the job of law enforcement to enforce the law, not a bunch of vigilantes. I fail to see how arresting people qualifies as a "dirty job," and it's not like they used unnecessary force.

Using militia makes sense internationally, against other state actors where you don't hold monopoly on force. Not domestically.
 

MwRYum

Major
I don't get it, why would you need any "loyalist militia." It's the job of law enforcement to enforce the law, not a bunch of vigilantes. I fail to see how arresting people qualifies as a "dirty job," and it's not like they used unnecessary force.

Using militia makes sense internationally, against other state actors where you don't hold monopoly on force. Not domestically.
Let's just say my faith in judicial resolution for the said problem is far less than extrajudicial ones... especially knowing the fact that the judicial system and legal sector are packed to the brim with insurgency sympathizers if not outright insurgents.
 
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tygyg1111

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I don't get it, why would you need any "loyalist militia." It's the job of law enforcement to enforce the law, not a bunch of vigilantes. I fail to see how arresting people qualifies as a "dirty job," and it's not like they used unnecessary force.

Using militia makes sense internationally, against other state actors where you don't hold monopoly on force. Not domestically.
Local "gangs" (e.g. white shirts during riots) sound like a good option. Any behaviour deemed too roachy gets a target put on their back for some proportional harassment
 

Wrought

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Let's just say my faith in judicial resolution for the said problem is far less than extrajudicial ones... especially knowing the fact that the judicial system and legal sector are packed to the brim with insurgency sympathizers if not outright insurgents.

That's a reasonable concern, considering the British inheritance, but surely the answer is then to reform the system? Again, that's the luxury of holding formal control (as opposed to contested control). You can use law enforcement and make systemic changes if you're the one in charge. Militia are used for situations when you aren't in charge, usually because it's an international dispute.
 

Phead128

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How's it started:
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How it is going:
About:
3 years 8 month for guilty plea
5 years 10 month for trial
20 months for the drivers

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I'm so happy they were caught and justice was served. I was soooo pissed that they appeared to escaped, but good thing they were intercepted.
 

MwRYum

Major
I'm so happy they were caught and justice was served. I was soooo pissed that they appeared to escaped, but good thing they were intercepted.
It's easy, that one, even for those who escaped the intercept, license plate trace back to vehicle's registered owner, so either the said owner owe up to their deeds (as driver of the "escape vehicle" and provider of the said "service"), or snitch out "the real driver" and themselves facing lesser charges...which for those lot it's predominately the former anyway.

Or, in exchange for lesser sentence, cough up enough "relevant details" to uproot the "support network" that they're part of.
 
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