Should start a Great Translation Movement for them. If they're so correct, they shouldn't be worried. They'd only be saying the most mundane truths.... Right? But they are worried. So deep down they know that they're extremist and wrong.
Hong-Kong Protests
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Doesn't change the fact that their eyes slant upward at an acute angle and would probably be brutally beaten when they encounter actual racists in the States. Maybe they should invest in my Asian American survival starter pack if they wish to integrate with society better?
When you say pro-West kleptocrats, do you mean folks like Boris Yeltsin?
Honestly, pro-west Kleptocrats within the CCP's ranks constitute greater threats to the Party State than Taiwan or other geopolitical foes. In fact, what you have now in China is a tacit alliance between Zhi Rens, pro-West kleptocrats and their families (who apparently became pro-west after losing influence to Xi's men in political struggles), and western liberal medias. China really needs to break this powerful - but relatively invisible - alliance. Otherwise, a Chinese Boris Yeltsin (yes, think Hu Yaobang, who even called for withdrawing troops from Tibet, while Zhi Ren students were willing to eat bullets for him) leading a group of Zhi Rens could cause serious harm to China's future development. Think about it. While most would blame Gorbachev for the collapse of the USSR, but it was pro-west kleptocrats and Zhi Rens like Yeltsin who actually shot the USSR in the back despite the facts that the people of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus voted to preserve the USSR. The irony is that Yeltsin was even more autocratic than CPSU's elite around Gorbachev. I'm afraid China's pro-west kleptocrats are no better, if not worse due to possible economic ties to the West.
The bottom line is that pro-west kleptocrats are no democrats. Once in power, they would simply rule with an iron fist on behalf of western MNCs, with Zhi Rens serving as the colonial hitmen and propagandists.
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And do you really have such a good idea of how many they are within the CPC? As well as their positions?
My guess, not at all lol.
From what I can gather, the party has through "collective leadership" got a circuit broker in the system to prevent a GS like a Gorbachev from destroying the system.
Sounds like factions (which are sure to exist) within Chinese political and social elites who can be broadly defined as "pro-west kleptos" wish to make China into a client state of the west similar to India today. With these people holding the positions which represent the interest of the west and their corporate/financial rulers. Basically sell your brothers and sisters for a second class spot in the high table/country club. Not too different to how India has operated for many decades now, leeching off common people and kicking them further down.
These types of people are made what they are through experience and perhaps also elements of indoctrination through whatever means. There's no doubt western propaganda and global brainwashing is strong and effective (at least certainly much more so in the past). I simply cannot understand why those rising and made privileged by a system could turn against it in large numbers. I must disagree with how exaggerated the issue is made by the current discussion here. There are surely such people. In my experience, they are much more often "losers" of the system. All the middle and upper class Chinese I've met were openly pro CCP and China as it is. No doubt opinions vary as much as they do in the west (perhaps less so actually) but some members here are really exaggerating things. The most pro west parts of China are Hong Kong and Taiwan, mostly due to historic events and conflicts. Shanghai is like 99% pro CCP and PRC and that 1% is still 200,000 people lol and yet protestors barely numbered 2000. Either Chinese are much more apolitical than assumed here or these pro west kleptos are even less motivated than Parisian garbage men. In a race to self destruction, the west is as ahead of China as their propaganda skills are.
These types of people are made what they are through experience and perhaps also elements of indoctrination through whatever means. There's no doubt western propaganda and global brainwashing is strong and effective (at least certainly much more so in the past). I simply cannot understand why those rising and made privileged by a system could turn against it in large numbers. I must disagree with how exaggerated the issue is made by the current discussion here. There are surely such people. In my experience, they are much more often "losers" of the system. All the middle and upper class Chinese I've met were openly pro CCP and China as it is. No doubt opinions vary as much as they do in the west (perhaps less so actually) but some members here are really exaggerating things. The most pro west parts of China are Hong Kong and Taiwan, mostly due to historic events and conflicts. Shanghai is like 99% pro CCP and PRC and that 1% is still 200,000 people lol and yet protestors barely numbered 2000. Either Chinese are much more apolitical than assumed here or these pro west kleptos are even less motivated than Parisian garbage men. In a race to self destruction, the west is as ahead of China as their propaganda skills are.
The Party is made of sterner stuff, it will not relinquish the hard earned progress made both by the people and the party. The PLA's relationship to the party also is insurance against any undue pressure on the system. Lastly the CPC has learned a great deal from the collapse of USSR. Nuff said.
Those idiots do it themselves, the FLG trolls are already attracting the ire of western libs for being conservative shills and brainless trumpets, they are only one in many , but certainly the largest and most organized of them.
Some forum members are pretending to be Chinese. Just ignore them.
People in China aren’t stupid. No one who are doing reasonably well are willing to rock the boat.