Hong-Kong Protests

MrCrazyBoyRavi said:

is that even a thing ? any foreigner can be politician in HK ?

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Yes and No!

If you are a foreign national, and you don't have the right of abode (identifying having obtained an ID card)! then you can't!

However, if you have obtained an ID card, then you are recogised as a Hong Kong citzens (and for clarity, you can also become a Chinese national overseas CNO, exactly the same as the infamous British national overseas BNO). As such, you can still keep your old passport and national status!

So after you get your ID card, you can vote, you can stand for elections and still be a foreign national.

To obtained a HONG Kong ID card, you only need to have lived in Hong Kong for 7 years! (also, I hear they can fast track you in special circumstances).

MrCrazyBoyRavi said:

its really baffles me , HK people have access to internet and all other media. Don't these guys watch alternative media ? read discussion board ? or may be western eastern history ? all those stupid wars western nation fought against weak nations. Why HK people only end up reading, watching whatever bad thing about china only ?

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Not All Hong Kong people are like what you describe. This is the narratives what the MSM like you to believe!

In fact, only the minority are like that, and it is not that they don't read or stupid or something else. The main reasons are (and no matter how we try, we will never persuade them otherwise) their hatred of CCP!

They would be happy to called themselves Chinese again, and stop all these nonsense if say, Tsai ying wen is the president of China (heaven forbid)!

localizer said:

Education system is failure like this:

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Teachers should never tell kids what to or not believe. Teachers must teach unopinionated facts

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I teach in the UK, and in the UK, there's a law that prevent people like me to influence mouldable young minds! Its called safeguarding and radicalisation!

There should be a similar law in Hong Kong, but there isn't. Everytime, they tried to change the education system, the "pro-democracy" camp fought it, siting liberty and freedom.

Look at what happened, when they try to change the text in the book, that says we're Chinese! That "pro-democracy" Mao 毛 woman cried foul, and said we are brain washing our kids! (I posted that story sometime ago)!

the article mainly talks a new HK Police tactics ("of early intervention") and issues of a proper identification of both, actually three sides (the Police; protesters; journalists):
Hong Kong police admit adopting more aggressive tactics in bid to quell rising violence as tensions grow between officers and journalists

• Police briefing on Monday delayed by half hour as freelance journalist accuses officers of ripping reporters’ masks off and pepper spraying them
• Force addresses issues of identification on both sides, saying it is harder to tell genuine members of the media from imposters

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B.I.B. said:

What did he say?

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Gatekeeper said:

Now, my Mandarin is not brilliant, so it is from reading the text. Hopefully, others here with more linguist skills can help.

From my reading is that he said of Mike Pence:

"its all silly words"

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My Mandarin is probably much worst than Gatekeeper

but I do know that the exclamation "HUH!.." at the beginning is a very common way for Chinese people of strongly expressing extreme disgust.

The Chinese equivalent of WHAT BLOODY BS!

Jura said:

the article mainly talks a new HK Police tactics ("of early intervention") and issues of a proper identification of both, actually three sides (the Police; protesters; journalists):
Hong Kong police admit adopting more aggressive tactics in bid to quell rising violence as tensions grow between officers and journalists

• Police briefing on Monday delayed by half hour as freelance journalist accuses officers of ripping reporters’ masks off and pepper spraying them
• Force addresses issues of identification on both sides, saying it is harder to tell genuine members of the media from imposters

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if interested

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the tactics seems very effective since the disorders are disappearing

I think the real protests are over at this point.

What we read now is just the western media sensationalism. The thugs are well funded and well organized by the foreign intelligence services.

When I said this to someone, they called me a "conspiracy theorist"

Call me what you want, but how else do you explain $100,000's for newspaper ads, $10,000's for T-Shirts at NBA games around the world (For the Toronto Game: )

Then a miracle happened: A Hong Kong newspaper wrote about our efforts, and donations surged.

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Yeah right, a miracle happened even though support is petering out and most of the young people supporting the unrest are unemployed or students!

Who knows even how much for all the masks and whatever.

Ironic that being anti-protest earns you the label of wumao, when it is really the US/UK who is trying to shape the opinion.

Only hope now is that police can wrap it up. Only then can the city move on. Central government should allow reforms, but take lessons from US/UK to learn how to control the policy no matter what party might be in power in the city.

supersnoop said:

I think the real protests are over at this point.

What we read now is just the western media sensationalism. The thugs are well funded and well organized by the foreign intelligence services.

When I said this to someone, they called me a "conspiracy theorist"

Call me what you want, but how else do you explain $100,000's for newspaper ads, $10,000's for T-Shirts at NBA games around the world (For the Toronto Game:

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Yeah right, a miracle happened even though support is petering out and most of the young people supporting the unrest are unemployed or students!

Who knows even how much for all the masks and whatever.

Ironic that being anti-protest earns you the label of wumao, when it is really the US/UK who is trying to shape the opinion.

Only hope now is that police can wrap it up. Only then can the city move on. Central government should allow reforms, but take lessons from US/UK to learn how to control the policy no matter what party might be in power in the city.

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Apart from NED...I don't think US is directly funding them (initially at-least). But Taiwanese Green Party individuals may be the real source of these funds.
UK has too many problems at home. UK is basically the cheergirl.

Great clip of interview with Martin Jaques (I think from memory). Ok I know he's generally pro-China. But it is worth a look!

I loved it when he said the Hong Kong "pro-democracy" rioters are Navie, and the British are hypocrites when they talk about democracy because......... well we are know why. so I wont go on!

Quickie said:

My Mandarin is probably much worst than Gatekeeper

but I do know that the exclamation "HUH!.." at the beginning is a very common way for Chinese people of strongly expressing extreme disgust.

The Chinese equivalent of WHAT BLOODY BS!

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Lol, yeah, it is actually more of an expression of disgust and disbelieve!

It reminded me of a story I heard through a friend who have contact with Chinese embassy staff in the UK. (I don't know how true it is, so please don't beat me up over it).

The story goes that when Deng met Thatcher, she got on her high horse, and started to sprout out about law and the rule of law, etc. (a bit like some posters here. Lol)

Basically, what she was harping on about was that China had signed away Hong Kong Island (this is important, as not all of Hong Kong) to Great Britain in PERPETUITY. And under international law and the rule of law, China should honoured that tteaty! (Even to this day, I still can't get over how ignorant she was of the events leading upto the signing of the treaty). And of course, she being the Iron lady, and freash from winning the Falklands war would propbably not hear of it from her advisors. (Upto this point, it can be verified, and I had seen a documentary confirming this).

The next bit, I can't confirm, so take it how you like.

Anyway, on hearing that, Deng did a loud HUH! And proceed to spat a large volumn of you know what into the spittoon to emphasis his disgust and disbelieve of this woman wanting to talk about the rule of law on how Hong Kong became British procession almost 150 years ago!