Hong-Kong Protests
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There are so many basic issues that are fundamentally wrong in HK, chief amongst is that there should absolutely be zero foreign nationals allowed in politics. Nowhere else in the world would you have foreign nationals in power in government.
Anyone with a foreign passport needs to renounce that and their foreign citizenship(s) if they want to continue in politics in HK. Otherwise they can F off to their other country and see how fast supporting rioters will get them in jail in ‘freedom loving’ countries.
Anyone with a foreign passport needs to renounce that and their foreign citizenship(s) if they want to continue in politics in HK. Otherwise they can F off to their other country and see how fast supporting rioters will get them in jail in ‘freedom loving’ countries.
is that even a thing ? any foreigner can be politician in HK ?
its really baffles me , HK people have access to internet and all other media. Don't these guys watch alternative media ? read discussion board ? or may be western eastern history ? all those stupid wars western nation fought against weak nations. Why HK people only end up reading, watching whatever bad thing about china only ?
I think what is worst is that legislators are "part time" and they can decide to not show up when the assembly is going on. The other issue, they can decide to not to vote on certain issue, but their head count is still counted within the vote results (IE. if you need 2/3rd of the votes to past a law or a bill, say there are total of 300 people in the legislature, if 30 people decide not to vote, indecisive or not attend. The 2/3rd calculation is not based on 270 people to pass the law, but still 300. A lot of time they use this to veto a bill instead of it casting a veto vote where they are worried about backlash from their ridings)
Education system is failure like this:
Teachers should never tell kids what to or not believe. Teachers must teach unopinionated facts
I read this from an Hong Kong guy of Indian ethnic origin. I thought, WOW, how true, so I think I'll share it with you guys.
It's about what happened on the weekend 26th Oct 2019. It's a great read!
LAST NIGHT, even the protesters didn’t turn up at the protests.
The media is showing dramatic pictures of Mongkok MTR station burning but perhaps missed the bigger story.
Yesterday’s protests were supposed to be a joint demonstration of Muslims, Hindus, journalists and their supporters. But look at who failed to show.
BROWN PEOPLE AREN’T STUPID
First, we brown people didn’t join yesterday’s mayhem. Pan-dem politician Jeremy Tam last week told everyone that the police “attacked” the mosque, but we’re not dumb. We saw the video: the water was clearly aimed diagonally downwards at Mr Tam and his gang of lawbreakers. (Besides, in our countries of origin, police fire guns, not water.)
Mr Tam’s aim was to distract the media from what else was happening: other pan-dem supporters were trashing the offices of the local DAB politician in a blatantly anti-democratic act. The media fell for it like a stone.
But Hong Kong’s 300,000-strong Muslim community is too smart to be tricked like that.
AND THE HINDUS?
Organizers added Hindus to the list of people called to the demonstration yesterday because brown people are brown people, right?
Hong Kong’s 100,000-strong Hindu community are also intelligent, non-violent people, and chose not to flock to the event.
They were busy celebrating Diwali, a beautiful festival in which love is celebrated and candles are burned – not MTR stations, thank you very much.
Who else stayed away?
HERE’S THE INTERESTING BIT
Regular attendees know that most rallies are clearly split into two segments.
There are basically about 10,000 mostly nice, good-hearted people who wouldn’t hurt a fly and only turn up for the first bit before going home.
Then there are about 900-odd scarily violent thugs devoted to setting police officers and MTR stations on fire.
Well, here’s the story: The 10,000 nice people didn’t turn up! They stayed away from TST. Even my lovely huggable devoted protester friends who go to absolutely everything stayed away.
AS A RESULT
So last night it was pretty much ONLY the 900 thugs.
And boy, could you tell. With no one to hold them back, they set fire to Mongkok station, smashed up a TST branch of Starbucks, beat up a man who spoke Mandarin, used hammers to smash the head of a guy taking pictures, etc, etc.
Oh yes, and the theme of the protest was “anti-brutality”.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SAY THIS.
You can’t denounce brutality by beating up people.
You can’t ask people to stop calling you “rioters” by rioting.
You can’t call for democracy by trashing the offices of elected politicians.
You can’t ask for free speech by silencing anyone who disagrees with you.
You can’t ask for the right to govern your city by destroying it.
You can’t improve our relationship with mainland China by abusing every symbol of China.
You can’t improve ANY situation by calling in Donald Trump.
And you can’t say the police are heavy-handed while trying to burn officers alive.
It’s that simple, really.
And when ONE PERSON among the pan-dems has the courage to say any of that, Hong Kong will have a chance of getting back onto the right road.
Until then, keep the faith, brothers and sisters.
Peace.
It's about what happened on the weekend 26th Oct 2019. It's a great read!
LAST NIGHT, even the protesters didn’t turn up at the protests.
The media is showing dramatic pictures of Mongkok MTR station burning but perhaps missed the bigger story.
Yesterday’s protests were supposed to be a joint demonstration of Muslims, Hindus, journalists and their supporters. But look at who failed to show.
BROWN PEOPLE AREN’T STUPID
First, we brown people didn’t join yesterday’s mayhem. Pan-dem politician Jeremy Tam last week told everyone that the police “attacked” the mosque, but we’re not dumb. We saw the video: the water was clearly aimed diagonally downwards at Mr Tam and his gang of lawbreakers. (Besides, in our countries of origin, police fire guns, not water.)
Mr Tam’s aim was to distract the media from what else was happening: other pan-dem supporters were trashing the offices of the local DAB politician in a blatantly anti-democratic act. The media fell for it like a stone.
But Hong Kong’s 300,000-strong Muslim community is too smart to be tricked like that.
AND THE HINDUS?
Organizers added Hindus to the list of people called to the demonstration yesterday because brown people are brown people, right?
Hong Kong’s 100,000-strong Hindu community are also intelligent, non-violent people, and chose not to flock to the event.
They were busy celebrating Diwali, a beautiful festival in which love is celebrated and candles are burned – not MTR stations, thank you very much.
Who else stayed away?
HERE’S THE INTERESTING BIT
Regular attendees know that most rallies are clearly split into two segments.
There are basically about 10,000 mostly nice, good-hearted people who wouldn’t hurt a fly and only turn up for the first bit before going home.
Then there are about 900-odd scarily violent thugs devoted to setting police officers and MTR stations on fire.
Well, here’s the story: The 10,000 nice people didn’t turn up! They stayed away from TST. Even my lovely huggable devoted protester friends who go to absolutely everything stayed away.
AS A RESULT
So last night it was pretty much ONLY the 900 thugs.
And boy, could you tell. With no one to hold them back, they set fire to Mongkok station, smashed up a TST branch of Starbucks, beat up a man who spoke Mandarin, used hammers to smash the head of a guy taking pictures, etc, etc.
Oh yes, and the theme of the protest was “anti-brutality”.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SAY THIS.
You can’t denounce brutality by beating up people.
You can’t ask people to stop calling you “rioters” by rioting.
You can’t call for democracy by trashing the offices of elected politicians.
You can’t ask for free speech by silencing anyone who disagrees with you.
You can’t ask for the right to govern your city by destroying it.
You can’t improve our relationship with mainland China by abusing every symbol of China.
You can’t improve ANY situation by calling in Donald Trump.
And you can’t say the police are heavy-handed while trying to burn officers alive.
It’s that simple, really.
And when ONE PERSON among the pan-dems has the courage to say any of that, Hong Kong will have a chance of getting back onto the right road.
Until then, keep the faith, brothers and sisters.
Peace.
I would go further, I would advacate anyone in public service and in a position of influence; ie Jimmy Lai the media tycoon. Would have to give up other natuonality. (this is why China does not allowed duo-nationalities)!
Let's face it, why should these people allowed to stir up trouble, and the minute it turn bad, they are free to flee to the first embassy or consulate general, and leave others to face the consequency that they themselves have caused!