lol, really? Let's wait and see.
Hong-Kong Protests
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lol, really? Let's wait and see.
AssassinsMace
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Here you go again, with your didactic empty rhetoric. I ignored you last time, because your comments really didn't have much worthy content to discuss about. They are theoretical fantasy coming out of an egghead who spent their whole life in an academic environment sheltered from the real world. I don't even think those are your own thoughts, but rather what you learned from books and media talk shows/interviews, which you chose to believe.
Everything I hear and see, tells me that the rioters are running out of steam and increasingly losing public support, hence the ever more extreme and sensationalist behavior of the rioters and there political backers.
I suspect that following the brief spike caused by the mask ban, that the numbers of actual rioters is decreasing rapidly.
Likewise I see the political stunts in the LC over the last few days as more of a sign of desperation than anything else.
The protests have lost momentum and the huge crowds of summer have all melted away.
I see the coming elections as being quite painful for many of the opposition parties, as many ordinary HK's are seeing them as toxic.
I suspect that following the brief spike caused by the mask ban, that the numbers of actual rioters is decreasing rapidly.
Likewise I see the political stunts in the LC over the last few days as more of a sign of desperation than anything else.
The protests have lost momentum and the huge crowds of summer have all melted away.
I see the coming elections as being quite painful for many of the opposition parties, as many ordinary HK's are seeing them as toxic.
Jimmyjames30x30 You are clearly relatively new to the forum, but this is not an acceptable way to address other forum members. This is a warning. Further posts in this manner will result in formal infractions being given. I know others have also posted in a similar manner recently, so all of you can take the warning as equally addressed to them as well.
This is Sino Defence Forum, We play the ball, not the man.
Twisting my words is what you are good at. The mainland is certainly not "out to ruin HK", because that would be stupid. What I said was it was not in mainland interest to have come to point of realization at the end of 1C2S (50 years, in 2047) that the HK system prevailed and thrived and fared much better as a open and free market economy with no governmental planning, than the mainland with a reformed command economy. Because this would have meant that "socialism with Chinese characteristics" has lost the competition. It would have meant that Deng Xiaoping reform is meaningless. It would have meant that PRC as a entire system has lost the competition.
As of right now, after 40 years of "reform and opening up", the PRC has no intention, nor does it have a need to "ruin HK", because the mainland has already proven itself to be able to grow much faster than HK, to generate extraordinary amount of wealth without becoming like the HK, to be able to develop a full spectrum of industrial and manufacturing capability (which the HK can't), and to be a R/D powerhouse compare to HK's non-existent technological R/D sector.
Hong Kong did make some effort in more than a handful of start up projects to usher in a booming software, IT design sector. All of those failed. Shenzhen, on the other hand, is arguably the "silicon valley of hardware". DJI, HUAWEI, Tencent, and many other surging technology giants in China started in Shenzhen, NOT HK.
How's my other post (post #2176), is that one okey?
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
The ultimate goal is to isolate China in Trump's trade war. The same goal would be employed if China sends in the troops into Hong Kong. The US is using up all its leverage in Trump's trade war and trying to convince the rest of the world in helping achieve that goal. If that happens, dead Hong Kong protestors everywhere. What are they going to do? Slap sanctions and tariffs to punish China...? China has nothing to lose which is the only thing holding China back from violating everything...
I have the same feeling. That's why I am okay with Carrie Lam's sluggishness and weakness. Had she been more of an iron lady, it would only fuel more confrontation. It will justify the rioter. And what's worse, it will gave those rioter and the discontent youth false hope.
Youngsters think like that. They don't reflect upon their own intentions, thoughts and actions. They don't criticize themselves. Whenever their effort stalls, they go "if only such and such outside forces is done away with, I will have reached my goal". Therefore, any obstacle that they can recognize becomes the thing they can blame their failure on.
Just "2 or more people" face a ban in London while in HK the bans have caps of 30 and 50.