H-6 Bomber Aircraft Discussions

raygun

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US is still using the B52s til 2030 in similar roles - cruise missile launcher. I say China is making a wise choice using a proven airframe, and spend the $ on R&D for other projects. One H6 with a total of 6 missile is nothing to sneeze at.
 

Jeff Head

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raygun said:
US is still using the B52s til 2030 in similar roles - cruise missile launcher. I say China is making a wise choice using a proven airframe, and spend the $ on R&D for other projects. One H6 with a total of 6 missile is nothing to sneeze at.

Production of Vulcan and Victor ended in the mid '60's, nearly half a century ago.
B-52s were built from 1954 into 1963. Almost ten years and 742 aircraft were built. The last 14 were built in the first half of 1963. That's over fifty years ago when they were built.

Since that time it has all been maintenance, maintenance, maintenance...and modernization within that large airframe.

So, the important issue is not so much when they were last built...but how well were they built, how were they used, and how well were they maintained.

The fact that the B-52 is still flying in relative good numbers, and will continue flying now, actually raygun the plan is for them to fly into the 2040s (another 30+ years), making them well over 85 year sold when they are retired, tells you that they were well built, they have not been abused, and they have had very, very good maintenance. In addition, because of the continual upgrade to their sensors and weapons, they are still relevant.

Now, the new H-6Ks are not vintage aircraft. These are new builds. They are built to an older airframe design it is true, but they use newer, better material, and have new wiring, electronics, etc. Of course you can see the H-6 and TU-16 heritgae in them. But in a role similar to the B-52...even though their number of ALCMs is much smaller than the B-52, they will still perform very well, particularly in numbers, in that standoff role.

Here's a number of pictures of the venerable old aircraft...the first three flying to this day:


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Current H-6K of the PLAAF

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Current B-52H of the US Air froce

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Current TU-95 Bear of the Russian Air froce

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Old Vulcan Bomber of the Royal Air Force

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Old Victor Bomber of the Royal Air Force
 
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FarkTypeSoldier

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US is still using the B52s til 2030 in similar roles - cruise missile launcher. I say China is making a wise choice using a proven airframe, and spend the $ on R&D for other projects. One H6 with a total of 6 missile is nothing to sneeze at.

Excellent choice I would say.

I reckon the H-6K would be flying in pairs to deliver maximium damage and avoid the probablity of the missiles being shot down by AA fires.

Repeat it in waves would totally disable any forces capabilities to fight back in any parts of SEA.
 

FarkTypeSoldier

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Translation to English (from top to bottom in order of the original text):

Carries 4x YJ-63 air to surface missiles. Equipped with advanced avonics and electronics, the H-6K can carry all the missiles currently in service of the Chinese forces which includes tactical or strategic weapons. It can satisfy the combat service needs of the PLAAF's of a medium-long range attack platform.

H-6K Bomber

When carrying out long range sea-attack mission, the H-6K can carry up to 6x YJ-12 long range supersonic cruise missile which has a combat radius of < than 300km. This means the mission could be carried out from the AA defences of all current AA weapons of all forces. The H-6K features a larger combat radius and sea-attack capability.

H-6K Bomber

As long range attack platform of the PLAAF, the H-6K can also carry strategic cruise missiles. The previous H-6 airframes cannot fulfil the loading of strategic cruise missile. The H-6K could also fulfil China’s second strike capability.

H-6K Bomber

Due to the advancement in weapon load out and info-comm datalink, the H-6K could load out as many as 12x KD-88/A (YJ-91) tactical medium range air-surface guided missiles which could operate in the airspace of an operation theater as an air blockage and to suppress enemies. This is a more effective way than a conventional fighter jets.

H-6K Bomber

Drawing of the Chinese Air Force H-6K different weapon load out
 
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Cheng

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i honestly hated old planes (other than the vintage ww2 fighters, bombers, f-86) because modern stuff looks cool. that said, i really don't like the h-6. it's an old airframe and all...however i must say, the h-6k is actually ok. they got rid of the glass nose, replaced with radome, did major overhaul internally, and seemed to feel like a modern bomber. it looks awesome

IMHO, looks don't matter for a military airplane, as long it is effective.
 

Cheng

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Excellent choice I would say.

I reckon the H-6K would be flying in pairs to deliver maximium damage and avoid the probablity of the missiles being shot down by AA fires.

Repeat it in waves would totally disable any forces capabilities to fight back in any parts of SEA.

For small combatants, yes, a pair of H-6s would be more than enough.

But if it is a ship with a half-decent air defense, they'll need more than that.
 

Cheng

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Dear bro, a couple of waves of attack should do the job - well

2 aircraft don't have enough missiles to overload the air defences.
So you need say 3 waves before the ship runs out of air defence missiles.

That's a total of 6 aircraft missions.

But if they send 4 aircraft and overload the air defences, they can almost guarantee that some of the missiles will reach the ship.

It's just a case of matching the target with an appropriate number of missiles.
 
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