H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

For a bomber loitering time, range, and payload matter a lot more than speed. I don’t expect H-20 to be supersonic. Rumor has it that Tengyun is now completely a military project and if they need to deliver something fast, that’s the better platform.

Some optimistic prediction on H-20 first flight — it will happen soon.

Temstar said:

Today while discussing the maiden flight of the second B-21 Yankee, Shilao and Ayi again implied that H-20's requirement grew out of needing to be able to fit something like JL-1 inside an IWB.

In fact they implied that PLAAF needed a large ALBM with great range like JL-1 because of relatively lack of performance of H-6 variants against B-52 and Tu-95. And in turn these large ALBM then created the updated requirements for H-20.

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While I really appreciate the updates from the trio, I hope you guys can post as much of the transcript and translation as possible, or at least a timestamp, instead of just a summary. Their podcast is often very cryptic, where exact phrasings are important and are often open to interpretation.

Timestamp starts at around 34:00

Yankee: JL-1 — the reason it's made so large is still because the bomber's basic performance sets the limit (he then talks about how the H-6 is inferior to B-52 and Tu-95)

Yankee (a bit later): Because JL-1 caused the H-20 to be redesigned.

Yankee: How should I put it…

Shilao: You've got it backwards.

Ayi: Yeah, it's indeed backwards.

Yankee: Well… it's technically correct.

Shilao: It's… technically correct… but it doesn't mean what you're implying.

Ayi: The exact words were "Because JL-1 caused the H-20 to be redesigned", that's not wrong

Yankee: Right, right, if you put it that way, it's correct.

Ayi: That's exactly what was said, not wrong.

Yankee: Yes, but… the direction is wrong.

They then agreed to leave the remaining details for later, so we don’t know conclusively what the relationship is. It’s not guaranteed that the H-20 will carry JL-1.

Guys, I'll be honest, but it's annoying! It's terribly annoying that in some flagship threads people constantly digress from the actual topic and talk about what-if fantasies like 36,000 t XXL-aircraft carrier or now in the H-20 thread: You are discussing a mega-XXL bomber carrying two JL-1 ALBMs for WW-3 - openly named that way - scenarios as if it is likely, realistic or already a given fact.

IMO we are already as far away from what's realistic for the H-20 like the aforementioned 360k t aircraft carrier and therefore all this fuss - IMO nonsense - is now moved into this thread as well as any political BS including openly discussing WW-3 scenarios was deleted.

Either you continue here or better leave it.

What if mega bomber options and other what-if theories!

Guys, I'll be honest, but it's annoying! It's terribly annoying that in some flagship threads people constantly digress from the actual topic and talk about what-if fantasies like 36,000 t XXL-aircraft carrier or now in the H-20 thread: You are discussing a mega-XXL bomber carrying two JL-1...

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siegecrossbow said:

Some optimistic prediction on H-20 first flight — it will happen soon.

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Definitely not H-20 for sure. From the context, this might refer to the second airframe of something