H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)
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Oh okay, I see what you mean now.
The way I see it, "H-X" refers to the strategic bomber project which we know is currently going forward via the stealthy flying wing, and most likely won over the canard-delta supersonic configuration in a previous comparison of designs.
OTOH, "JH-XX" refers to a different project that may or may not be currently in work, and in discussion here, mostly refers to the "mysterious black model" with lambda wings resembling the YF-23, with the idea that it may be "JH-XX" mostly arising from length estimates of the model as well as the presence of a side weapons bay for AAM. Other, less notable possible aircraft projects for the "JH-XX" category include the possible "Sino Su-34" that might be under development (which technically has canards but in terms of origin is likely unrelated to the canard-delta supersonic design, given its heritage would be from flankers while the canard-delta supersonic design would likely be original clean sheet), and possibly "JH-7B" in some form, though the latter two are generally not as high profile as the "mysterious black model".
So going back to the canard-delta supersonic bomber, I'd argue that while it is possible it could be the JH-XX, the premises for that conclusion are shaky:
The last few posts have shown that even large strategic bombers can have canards -- they may not function like canards on a fighter, but there's no reason to assume the canard-delta supersonic bomber proposal functioned like canards on a fighter.
More importantly, the canard-delta supersonic bomber was said to be in competition with the flying wing, which is now known as a strategic bomber. Unless the air force has very loose terms for what "strategic" means, there is a high likelihood that the original flying wing proposal and supersonic canard-delta proposal both featured similar performance in the important "bomber related" aspects, namely payload and range -- or putting it another way, from what little information we have at present, I think it is prudent for us to believe that the supersonic canard-delta proposal was indeed for a strategic bomber aircraft, not a strike fighter, and thus we have no reason to conflate it with JH-XX at present.
If new information comes to light that the supersonic canard-delta design was re adapted and made smaller for a new JH-XX project, or if it comes to light that the original competition for H-X was between a strategic bomber sized flying wing against a much smaller supersonic canard-delta, or maybe if both the flying wing and supersonic canard-delta are smaller than what we think (aka not "strategic bombers") -- then I would gladly stand corrected.
However we don't have any suggestions of those things at present, so going back to your post #295, I think that with the limited information we have at present, there is no reason to believe that the supersonic canard-delta and the flying wing were not competing for the same "H-X" project (now tentatively called H-20), and also no reason to believe that the supersonic canard-delta was meant for the "JH-XX" project (if it even exists).
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Who doesn't? I like it!
I dunno, it corresponds quite closely to the model.
I meant the appearance.
Yes, but here it might be allowed, at the Keyforum a few certain menbers would bash it immediately ... anyway You are surely correct.
Deino
As did I.
That is to say, its appearance corresponds quite closely to that picture of the model we have... maybe it's wishful thinking to hope for JH-XX to be built, but I don't think this CGI interpretation of the model is off the mark at all.
Seems to me the wings are far more forward, the nose is shorter, and the intakes are both more aft and further outboard in the model than that CGI. All those change the plane's appearance drastically, I think. I thought Grassroot's line art is closer actually.As did I.
That is to say, its appearance corresponds quite closely to that picture of the model we have... maybe it's wishful thinking to hope for JH-XX to be built, but I don't think this CGI interpretation of the model is off the mark at all.