Gunman murders 32 at VA Tech

Well, as a Chinese myself, I don't think I hold the biase against Chinese or East Asian.

But from the deadly way of shooting and cold-mind method, I already guessed it right. That guy wore a bullet-prove vest, and at the end he killed himself. He didn't run away after the first shooting, but stayed on the campus to wait for the second opportunity.

Kind of the guy determined to die, and drag as many as possible to go with him.

The guy's blog, it's said

You let a foriegner just entered your country less than a year to have two guns. I seriously do not understand the gun control of US. Most of other countries do not allow civilians to carry weapons at all. And all these countries are fine. Why you have to train all your people to use weapon and in constant aleart to protect themselves and at the same time let the murders get their weapons freely?

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE are those guns in the blog real?

szbd said:

You let a foriegner just entered your country less than a year to have two guns. I seriously do not understand the gun control of US. Most of other countries do not allow civilians to carry weapons at all. And all these countries are fine. Why you have to train all your people to use weapon and in constant aleart to protect themselves and at the same time let the murders get their weapons freely?

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Since it has been reported that the serial numbers on the guns were ground off, I doubt seriously that these guns were obtained legally...and even if they were, they were not used legally. Laws were broken. By definition, a criminal like this breaks laws.

As to why the US had so many guns...as I explained earlier it is a cultural and historical issue based on the premise that it is primarily the individuals responsibilty himself to defend himself in a free society. Been operating under that prmise for over 200 years.

As to it not happening in other countries...I believe if we look around ourselves we will find that it does. Guns, explosives, bombs, knives, etc., etc.

Yeah he broke the law, that's mainly because it's very easy in US to break that law, which means, the law has some problems.

I know the US cultural and historical tradition on this. But the world is changed, there should be some progress made on it. The individuals responsibilty himself to defend himself in a free society is not a good thing, An individual can also kill people easily in this free society.

fishhead said:

Well, as a Chinese myself, I don't think I hold the biase against Chinese or East Asian.

But from the deadly way of shooting and cold-mind method, I already guessed it right. That guy wore a bullet-prove vest, and at the end he killed himself. He didn't run away after the first shooting, but stayed on the campus to wait for the second opportunity.

Kind of the guy determined to die, and drag as many as possible to go with him.

The guy's blog, it's said

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That's not the shooter's blog, the blog is just updated.

szbd said:

Yeah he broke the law, that's mainly because it's very easy in US to break that law, which means, the law has some problems.

I know the US cultural and historical tradition on this. But the world is changed, there should be some progress made on it. The individuals responsibilty himself to defend himself in a free society is not a good thing, An individual can also kill people easily in this free society.

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Sorry...we disagree. It is easy to break the law in any society. One just has to decide to do so and then do it...and then face the consequences.

Individual responsibility is a significant price of freedom. I was giving perspective about those feelings here in America...nothing more

As it is, we simply disagree on this and, as I said, I do not intend to argue or debate it. The SD forum is not about that.

Yeah, those 30+ death, 20+ wounded and their families just paided their price of freedom.***********************************

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My deepest sympathy towards the victims and their families and my utter most outrage towards the incompetent university officials who could have probably averted this massacre.

This really disturbs me. The University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign has a tendency to send out mass e-mails to students for other things (for example, over the past two weeks there have been about five armed robberies on campus and we JUST got an e-mail about it like a day ago ). I have a feeling the university officials at UIUC would have probably reacted the same way. I hope this certainly changes things on how university officials act.

Thank Allah (SWT) that this madman was not using an AK-47 or AR-15, the death toll would have been much much higher....

This terrible tragedy takes me back to the Port Arthur shooting in my home state of Tasmania, in Australia, just 10 years ago, when 35 people, mainly tourists, were gunned down by a single crazed gunman, armed with a couple of semi auto assault rifles.

Gun laws in Australia were changed after that and in my case I had to surrender several valuable semi auto rifles and a semi auto shotgun because they were included in a list of prohibited firearms under our new laws. I thought the changes in Australia went too far and it has done nothing to stop illegal firearm ownership by criminals. It is just much more difficult for law abiding people to get permission to buy a firearm and has made some kinds of firearms, like the Browning A5 shotgun I had used for duck shooting for 30 years, illegal. In my opinion, the thing that led to the PA shooting was that a person with known psychological problems was able to obtain weapons like the AR-15 with no questions asked. I think sensible laws have a place, but draconian laws will still see criminals getting hold of guns.

My sympathy and prayers go out to the victims and their families.

Cheers