Future PLAN Forecast Thread: Number, disposition, etc.

plawolf

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These particular LCAC's aren't like Zubrs. They aren't designed to operate independently of their motherships the 071's. And the 071's aren't designed to operate independently without fleet defense. Thus the LCAC's and 071's will always be under the air defenses of a fleet. Thus the need for an LCAC and 071 to completely waste their potential and design as troop and vehicle transports is just about zero.

It would help if you actually read what has been written instead of what you think has been written.

No where has anyone ever suggested that the LCACs would be used as fleet defense for the 071. Where that notion came from I frankly do not know.

If they are really that desperate to protect the 071, they could just part some S300s on the helo deck of the ship itself.

And you say the LCACs are not design to operate independently, yet that is exactly what they are doing at the very moment with the deployment at Somalia.

And while you can navalize the radars, you certainly cannot navalize the launchers, which are not designed for launch at sea, to speak nothing of having to launch from an inherently unstable platform like a floating cushion bobbing around in the ocean waves. Surely you have noticed the four stabilizer pistons on these launchers that lower to the ground to steady the launcher for firing. And that's on dry land.

Well that only demonstrates you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Novelizing the launchers? Where did that random idea come from? Have you actually seen these missiles being launched? They leave the tube in a faction of a second and are on their way. There is simply no issue with platform stability unless you get into stupidly rough territory.

And just FYI, the stabilizers are there to make sure the launcher stays upright after the launch as the extreme forces from the launch might tip it over if unsupported. There never have been and never will be some ridiculous requirement that a cold launch launcher need to remain perfectly still to allow for a missile launch.

If a radar can find a periscope sticking up a few feet above the surface of the water (and it can), the chance a radar cannot see an unstealthy LCAC with a giant even more unstealthy SAM launcher sitting on deck is just about zero.

And yet more demonstration of you complete lack of understanding of what you are talking about.

Does the concept of detection range and natural curvature have any meaning to you? If not, stop reading now and say so, so I can know not to waste any more time here.

Otherwise, you may wish to consider at what ranges a naval warship is likely to be able to pick up a very small flat object sitting on the surface of the sea even if it has no stealth design characteristics. You send aircraft up to search and you find yourself painting big crosshairs on yourself for the SAMs.

What more, when entering a highly dangerous operating theater, standard USN operating procedures are to operate with very strict emissions control so as not to give away their location.

With 022s knocking about, they would be forced to either abandon their first choice tactic, or risk wondering into a wolfpack and having very little warning to defend against saturation attacks.

The craziness of an idea is inversely proportional to the likelihood of the idea being adopted by anybody.

And is completely irrelevant to the practicality of the suggestion.

You have harped on and on about how you believe there is no likelihood of this being adopted. But I have yet to see anyone present a credible reason as to why this concept is not possible.

The PLAN may not need it, that does not necessarily mean no-one else would either.
 

bd popeye

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Let me post those for you. The ship looks similar to the USN USS Independence..I say fan boy dream..

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Compare to the Indy photos and drawings below..

This is simple.. The ship above is a fan boy dream. The ship below,USS Indpendence LCS-2 is real and operational.

Jeez..the fan boy could at least made some original drawings..

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GULF OF MEXICO (July 12, 2009) The littoral combat ship Independence (LCS 2) underway during builder's trials. Builder's trials are the first opportunity for the shipbuilder and the U.S. Navy to operate the ship underway, and provide an opportunity to test and correct issues before acceptance trials. (All Photos courtesy Dennis Griggs General Dynamics/Released)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (April 2, 2010) The Littoral combat ship USS Independence (LCS 2) approaches Mayport, Fla. Independence is in the Atlantic Ocean on her maiden underway. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Justan Williams/Released)

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tphuang

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that is totally fanboy, basically just reminding me of GD version of LCS. For many obvious reasons, it clearly makes no sense for China go for a design like this. Do I really need to critique the design more?
 

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xx war ship photos from Shanghai JN ship yard:

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Mao, I like the enthusiasm, but it has already been posted on the 052C thread. Please check that one next time before posting this one.
 

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Thanks again gents!. I missed the bow sonar dome this morning. That should have tipped me off!:eek:
 
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