Future PLAN Forecast Thread: Number, disposition, etc.

[asif iqbal]

China first will have to establish itself with LPD and LHD, this will take us into 2015 and even into 2020, for around 10 Type071 LPD and 6 LHDs

after this we will see small aircraft carriers with diesel engines maybe around 50,000 ton mark before China moves into the supercarrier race of 85,000+ton nuclear powered carrier which will take us well into beyond 2020 say around 2030+

so its a long time before we see any big carriers from China but as we all know China always has a trick and a suprise up its sleve so who knows

China needs to make its presence felt in the Arabia Sea and Persian Gulf, its where its all happening, sailing out of the Pakistani port of Gwader would not be a bad idea and would be very practical location for Chinese navy

 

[Blitzo]

10 lpd and 6 lhd is a bit ambitious for 2020... Maybe 6 lpd and 2 lhd is more realistic

 

[i.e.]

10 lpd and 6 lhd is a bit ambitious for 2020... Maybe 6 lpd and 2 lhd is more realistic

you be lucky if in 2020 there is 1 LHD and 4 LPD,

on other hand the replenishers are worked to the bones.

their replenishers is spending something like 6 month in gulf of aden, every 2 rotation of 054As 1 gets a replacement.

Wonder if the support ships gets a extra boost in the new program.

 

[asif iqbal]

well the time between Kunlun Shan and Jinggang Shan is around 4 years but thats because the 2nd one was not started straight after the 1st one, for obvious reasons

if PLAN is happy with them and serious then we can see atleast another 4 going operational by 2020 so yeah 6 LDP by 2020 and not 10, my mistake

as for LHD that depends on how Chinas medium and heavy lift helos programmes goes, cus for a LHD China needs dedicated naval helos, i have no idea why i said 4 LHDs by 2020 i meant 2!!

this is assuming there are no export orders which would most certianly delay production

 

[i.e.]

well the time between Kunlun Shan and Jinggang Shan is around 4 years but thats because the 2nd one was not started straight after the 1st one, for obvious reasons

if PLAN is happy with them and serious then we can see atleast another 4 going operational by 2020 so yeah 6 LDP by 2020 and not 10, my mistake

as for LHD that depends on how Chinas medium and heavy lift helos programmes goes, cus for a LHD China needs dedicated naval helos, i have no idea why i said 4 LHDs by 2020 i meant 2!!

I just don't see the need for China to have lot of LDPs and LHDs.

Who is to invade and "Intervene"?

contrary to the noise in western media china is not going to land a batallion on Marines into some East African country to support some "Humanitarian Crisis".

 

[Red___Sword]

I just don't see the need for China to have lot of LDPs and LHDs.

Who is to invade and "Intervene"?

contrary to the noise in western media china is not going to land a batallion on Marines into some East African country to support some "Humanitarian Crisis".

They say about condom - It's better you have some while not using; rather than you need some while not having.

I say the answer is something in line with that.

 

[i.e.]

They say about condom - It's better you have some while not using; rather than you need some while not having.

I say the answer is something in line with that.

The best protection is abstinence.

 

[Red___Sword]

The best protection is abstinence.

True, but you don't really believe you can pursuade a great nation like US to abstinence their erupting energy of the youth, do you?

So at the same time, condom is greatly recommended by countless welfare committees.

I say the answer is still something in line with that.

 

[Vlad Plasmius]

Re: The PLAN's Future Areas of Opperation

It needs to produce at least 8 more 052c (5 each) to be able to complete the 2 battle groups strategy (and maybe 2 SSNs covering the sea beneath)

They don't need 5 air defense destroyers per carrier. Up until recently the USN would have less than five destroyers and cruisers in a group with guided missile frigates complementing the group but the U.S. has moved away from building frigates so more destroyers are being used. The 054As would be quite suitable for use in a Chinese carrier group against any regional powers. Its two 051Cs could also be used. However, one should also consider the fact not all surface ships in a carrier group are prioritized for air defense.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

Guys I think we have gone so far off topic that the topic is no longer visible.
So then Lets get back on topic please.

I have said before that I believe China would go with a four carrier fleet. The Varyag being either the prototype or atleast the insperation of the class that would be the main fleet arm of the PLAN most would agree with that, Attached too said carrier group would likely be a a fairly conventional carrier battle group likely made up the the PLAN's latest Destroyers, Corvette, frigates as well as supply ships, escort subs and likely at least one LPD. now the LHD is something I am interested in because If the Rumors are true that the PLA is working on a VTOL fighter then the LHA might not be a just a helicopter carrier but possibly a aircraft carrier in it's own right an equal if you will too the America Class LHD6 rather then the HMS ocean. more of a Sea Control Ship like the Kiev class. this could be tasked too support landings. as for mission needs as China Wishes too and looks too be becoming a Superpower it would have need of such ships as they would have too take the responsibilities of a Superpower. Including UN missions, Disaster relief and Power projection.