Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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phrozenflame

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Africa has very positive past with china. Curious which US allies hate china? Other than japan and Australia. Second, what is your definition of an ally? The US throws that term around a lot that why you gotta be specific.

And if they hate china why haven't they already sided with the US during the trade war?
India. They have anointed themselves as super power (2020). Their govt (whose claim to fame is mass murder of minorities) tells them they are a superior race. Their armed forces are invincible and most advanced in the world. This fantasy is sold millions of times daily through the IT cell. Chinese are portrayed as cunning, clever and evil and need to be controlled.

The biggest problem right now with China is it just sits and waits for America to make moves and reacts with final warnings. While America goes around happy to topple governments here and there and work through kinetic and non-kinetic means to carry out huge decade long influence operations on governing levers. China sits and reacts with cringe North-Korea type shitty revolutionary keyword laden statements and what not. Chinese PR projection is absolutely pathetic, it's non-existent.

China needs to start intervening in existing and future proxies in covert manner.
 

phrozenflame

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Like the Ukrainia war?
It very much does.

Putin crafted an image over decades, especially in Germany, people were insulated from Germany's alarming dependency on Russian oil.
Yes, that went kaput as soon as the war went hot, but the damage has been done.

Similarly, people in EU have sacrificed with inflation personally and so far more or less they're sitting quite, this is also due to a huge PR campaign to portray Ukrainians being complete victims. EU's ally Israel does far worst to Palestinians every day than what Russia does in Ukraine, but the outrage is absent. This is similar to Uyghur situation, where Chinese are EVIL, meanwhile, India gets away with something similar in Kashmir.

PR war matters, the governing system needs to buy-in of the people to *certain* extent. US didnt loose Vietnam or Afghanistan due to the fighting, it lost due to internal PR issues.

The more evil the China is portrayed, the more the 'tolerance' to suffer losses in West.

China has done nothing. Even some Chinese analysts who appear on western documentaries or news shows are cringe AF.
 

vincent

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It very much does.

Putin crafted an image over decades, especially in Germany, people were insulated from Germany's alarming dependency on Russian oil.
Yes, that went kaput as soon as the war went hot, but the damage has been done.

Similarly, people in EU have sacrificed with inflation personally and so far more or less they're sitting quite, this is also due to a huge PR campaign to portray Ukrainians being complete victims. EU's ally Israel does far worst to Palestinians every day than what Russia does in Ukraine, but the outrage is absent. This is similar to Uyghur situation, where Chinese are EVIL, meanwhile, India gets away with something similar in Kashmir.

PR war matters, the governing system needs to buy-in of the people to *certain* extent. US didnt loose Vietnam or Afghanistan due to the fighting, it lost due to internal PR issues.

The more evil the China is portrayed, the more the 'tolerance' to suffer losses in West.

China has done nothing. Even some Chinese analysts who appear on western documentaries or news shows are cringe AF.
Oh please. Russia spent billions on Russia Today. It got shutdown in the West right after the invasion. I don’t see RT helped Russia in anyway.

No one dare to say anything negative about Israel is because Jewish people controls the money and politicians all over the world
US secretaries.jpeg
 

Minm

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The Brits are spending 3 months for basic combat training for Ukrainians. These guys only learn how to shoot and will probably get themselves killed.
They won't be missed. Radicalised guerrilla warriors who'll take up arms against the government are a lost cause
 

escobar

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The U.S. wants China to react so that it can coalesce it's allies waiting or angling for as fait accompli to enact whatever dastardly plans they have against the country. The west thinks it's people/public will more than stomach whatever hardship they suffer when China reacts in a way they think it will, which is to react violently sooner or later. The primary motivation here is to simply kill the Chinese momentum (economic, technologically, military, business, socio-political stability) to foster destabilization in China and therefore the end of CPC rule which means, China back to chaos, death, famine, destruction....Since the west always think or assume that China is only a crisis away from collapsing showing a severe underestimation of the CPC governance as well as overestimation of American/Western led belief that their system is superior and everlasting that no nation should resist.
You are thinking too much. The primary motivation is to strengthen TW ability to kill lot of Chinese in a War. That is all. And US already know CN not going to react.
 

horse

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The U.S. wants China to react so that it can coalesce it's allies waiting or angling for as fait accompli to enact whatever dastardly plans they have against the country. The west thinks it's people/public will more than stomach whatever hardship they suffer when China reacts in a way they think it will, which is to react violently sooner or later. The primary motivation here is to simply kill the Chinese momentum (economic, technologically, military, business, socio-political stability) to foster destabilization in China and therefore the end of CPC rule which means, China back to chaos, death, famine, destruction....Since the west always think or assume that China is only a crisis away from collapsing showing a severe underestimation of the CPC governance as well as overestimation of American/Western led belief that their system is superior and everlasting that no nation should resist.

Exactly.

This is just trolling here.

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The question is, will China intercept this arms shipment?

Maybe.

The CCP seems to play a very basic strategy with the Americans, because the Americans come across as extremely dumb lately with the leadership.

Play the good horse against the good horse, bad horse against the bad horse. Just play the same card, that appears to be what China has done lately.

Therefore, counter this troll, with another troll.

Suppose the PRC declares it will try to find out where this arms shipment is coming from, and decides to intercept a random container ship headed for Taiwan.

Now if that happens, it would be like Pelosi just invited the PLAN to stop and inspect ships coming into Taiwan ports. Stop a couple of them, then the ramifications will be enormous.

As we have seen so far, the Americans and Taiwanese are not ready for these kind of escalations. They still using the old stuff, with limited to no effectiveness.

Mainland China and Taiwan is still a military stalemate. Change the situation on the ground, then one side is clearly advancing. The Americans and current Taiwan authorities using their old anit-PRC methods, not working, the facts on the ground change constantly against them.
 

Peter TR

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War will occur, because USA would push taiwan to declare themselves as an independent nation by around 2024-27 by that time USA would have chip factory at home and china would be forced to do military operation in taiwan and same Ukraine like urban warfare will occur. West and it's Allies will impose sanction, companies will pull out their business from china because of public opinion in west and their allies country supporting taiwan and sanction would make them to do business from china very difficult and so most of them will leave but USA wants more ,so they want to bring /coerce south east Asian countries too and india as well as muslim countries too( that's why you see Xinjiang report by UN, it would be used to pressurize muslim countries to block BRI project and join USA side) . USA wants more allies or partner on it's side.
Well buddy apparently u didn`t see militray simulation results from US and Taiwan military

For US military simulation they can not hold PLA back if they decide to start landing on Taiwan island

But base on the results of Han Kuang Exercise by Taiwan military. They can push PLA into Taiwan strait to feed the fish

So the results is clear

US military is the burden for its Taiwanese allies ;)
 
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