FFG 054/054A Thread

[MIGleader]

Re: Type 054 FFG status

Now, i still dont think the 54 would have a PAR or C4I system taken from the 52c. As we all know, the 52c had an aegis-like system, which performs great for larger destroyers. Such a system has not been proven for smaller frigates, and could result in sub-par performance.

 

[eecsmaster]

Re: Type 054 FFG status

cough Spanish F-100 cough

 

[adeptitus]

Re: Type 054 FFG status

cough Spanish F-100 cough

The F-100 Alvaro de Bazan Class is 5,800 tons, versus the Type 054 is ~3,000 tons.

The smallest Spanish ship equipped with AN/SPY-1 radar system will prolly be the new AFCON Corvette:

AFCON Corvette
Displacement: 2,600 tons
Length: 102 meters
Beam: 13.9 meters
Draft: 3.75 meters
Crew: 60 + 20
Propulsion: CODAD w/4 diesels, 2 shafts
Speed: 27+ kts
Radar: SPY-1K phased array radar (AN/SPY-6?)
Sonar: hull-mounted sonar system
Weapons: 76mm gun, Mk 41 VLS system, Surface missile launcher (for SSMs), Aegis combat system
Aviation: 1 helicopter

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Kinda funny to think they'd classify a 2,600 ton ship as a Corvette, in same category as the 650 ton Visby-class. LoL.

 

[tphuang]

Re: Type 054 FFG status

The F-100 Alvaro de Bazan Class is 5,800 tons, versus the Type 054 is ~3,000 tons.

The smallest Spanish ship equipped with AN/SPY-1 radar system will prolly be the new AFCON Corvette:

AFCON Corvette
Displacement: 2,600 tons
Length: 102 meters
Beam: 13.9 meters
Draft: 3.75 meters
Crew: 60 + 20
Propulsion: CODAD w/4 diesels, 2 shafts
Speed: 27+ kts
Radar: SPY-1K phased array radar (AN/SPY-6?)
Sonar: hull-mounted sonar system
Weapons: 76mm gun, Mk 41 VLS system, Surface missile launcher (for SSMs), Aegis combat system
Aviation: 1 helicopter

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Kinda funny to think they'd classify a 2,600 ton ship as a Corvette, in same category as the 650 ton Visby-class. LoL.

054 is believe to be around 3400 tonne and 054A is larger than that. As mentionned, it's probably in the 4000 to 5000 tonne range. So, it's still smaller than F-100 and F-124 (not surprisingly, some posters on Chinese forums want to compare 054A to these two), but not significantly smaller.

 

[tphuang]

Re: Type 054 FFG status

well, huitong has now put up a new section for 054A.

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There have been indications that the first batch of two improved Jiankai class FFGs (Type 054A?) are currently under construction in both Shanghai and Guangzhou since late 2005. The major improvement of this design is an American MK48 style 32-cell VLS at B position (HHQ-16/SA-N-12? with Front Dome type guidance radar) which may utilize hot launch. Its air defence is further strengthed by two Type 730 CIWS installed on both sides of the aft mast. A Top Plate air-search radar is installed on top of the foremast.
- Last Updated 7/11/06

maybe we should also put up a section on this on sinodefence?

 

[wmdco]

Re: Type 054 FFG status

It seems that 054 is similar to Jiangwei III except stealthy features and CIWS. why did PLAN develop a new 054 with similar weapons and systems to Jiangwei III? If 054A is true, does that mean 054 is only the trial ship for 054A? If it is the case, why did PLAN build more than one of this class. Remember 167? It was the trial ship for 115 and only one of this class was built.

 

[tphuang]

Re: Type 054 FFG status

It seems that 054 is similar to Jiangwei III except stealthy features and CIWS. why did PLAN develop a new 054 with similar weapons and systems to Jiangwei III? If 054A is true, does that mean 054 is only the trial ship for 054A? If it is the case, why did PLAN build more than one of this class. Remember 167? It was the trial ship for 115 and only one of this class was built.

054 is a much larger hull than Jiangwei III and 054A is an even larger hull. You can't expect to increase the hull size from 2250 tonnes to 4500 tonnes overnight. You need an intermediate class. Besides, 054 still has the task of doing ASW in PLA.

 

[chicket9]

Re: Type 054 FFG status

Funny thing is that the model for Type 054A has 2x Type 730 CIWS.

If so, that is quite a lot of CIWS power for a frigate sized ship (considering most Western Frigates only have one CIWS mount). This would increase the 054A's survivability.

 

[sumdud]

Re: Type 054 FFG status

Well, I can certainly say that I don't see why a ship would have only 1 CIWS. That would mean being able to save face without covering your butt...........

2 CIWS is reasonable.
Try the old type 54, 4 AK-630s!!!!
(Now why did China stop using it again?)

 

[MIGleader]

Re: Type 054 FFG status

i think it was something with the single rice lamp radar only able to direct the Ak-630s in one direction at a time, as opposed to both directions with two autonomous 730s.