F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

delft

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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

And Italy is in
The Dutch government and parliament have not yet decided to buy F-35's, but there is no other candidate. However the decision has been taken to cap the buy at EUR 4.5 b which should be enough for about half the number mentioned above. With less than thirty, some in the US for training, some for defense and some in maintenance it is unlikely that any will be available for war against some African or Asian country. That at least is the take on the matter by my Dutch center right newspaper. The next worry btw is the maintenance cost ....
 

Air Force Brat

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The Dutch government and parliament have not yet decided to buy F-35's, but there is no other candidate. However the decision has been taken to cap the buy at EUR 4.5 b which should be enough for about half the number mentioned above. With less than thirty, some in the US for training, some for defense and some in maintenance it is unlikely that any will be available for war against some African or Asian country. That at least is the take on the matter by my Dutch center right newspaper. The next worry btw is the maintenance cost ....

Well brother I do appreciate your concern, the Marine Corps, General Amos stated this week that the F-35 is not outside of sequestration and suggested the Corp will cut its buy!!!! So we are all in the same boat, this overburdened US economy will weaken further with ObamaCare's imposition and the decision by the US Supreme court to overturn DOMA, opening the flood gate for supposed new "dependants", very sad day for America, and the world at large. Both of these issues are really "power-grabs" to impose the will of the elite's on the American public which are already suffering enough IMHO. As you have so wisely stated all along, these types of programs may render the F-35 unaffordable, no matter how good/bad it is, these are indeed very difficult days for the world at large. AFB
 

FORBIN

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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

To compare F-35C with the Super Hornet ( which is a very good plane, not too expensive and delivered on time ! ) :

He carries 9 tons of ordnance against 8, little difference ( in stealth configuration 2 tons , max 4 AAM now after 6)
Equipped with a better radar, detect a target 1 m2 about 160 km against 130 for Super Hornet.
Better electronic : sensor fusion, EOTS, DAS...
A larger radius of action
But it is less agile about 5 G against about 7.5 offset by electronics that allows the pilot a high reactivity

And especially it would restore greater range to CAW, which had been lost since the withdrawal of A-6 and KA-6/S-3 tanker.

The Harpoon so large ( fins ) does not fit into internal bays only external pylons may be equipped, ASM NSM/JSM get in
internal bays.

You can put in internal bays for F-35A/C weapons 4.2 m long and 0.64 m diameter, for B 3.85/0.64 the internal bays shorter backwards because vertical flight system with also a tank in less.
 

Jeff Head

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To compare F-35C with the Super Hornet (which is a very good plane, not too expensive and delivered on time !)
Well, the F-35C is not intended to replace the F/A-18E/F Super Hornets. It will primarily replace the older wings of F/A-18C/D Hornets. So, IMHO, another good comparison would be between the F-35C and the F/A-18C/D Hornet.

The future air wing (once the new aircraft are available) most likely will consist of:

Air Superiority/Attack: F/A-18E/F - 2 Squadrons (24 aircraft)
Attack/Air Defense: F-35C - 2 Squadrons (24 Aircraft)
Recon/Patrol/strike: UCAV (X-47B follow-on) - 1 Squadron (8 Aircraft)
Electronic: EF-18G - 1 Squadron (4 Aircraft)
AEW: E-2D - 1 Squadron (5 Aircraft)
COD: C-2 - 1 Squadron (2 Aircraft)
ASW/SAR: UH-60 - 1 Squadron (4 Aircraft)

At some point, many of us hope that they add:

ASW: SV-22 Osprey - 1 Squadron (10 Aircraft)

But we shall see. At some point the Super Hornets will be replaced...but that is probably at least 15-20 years out.
 
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Air Force Brat

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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

To compare F-35C with the Super Hornet ( which is a very good plane, not too expensive and delivered on time ! ) :

He carries 9 tons of ordnance against 8, little difference ( in stealth configuration 2 tons , max 4 AAM now after 6)
Equipped with a better radar, detect a target 1 m2 about 160 km against 130 for Super Hornet.
Better electronic : sensor fusion, EOTS, DAS...
A larger radius of action
But it is less agile about 5 G against about 7.5 offset by electronics that allows the pilot a high reactivity

And especially it would restore greater range to CAW, which had been lost since the withdrawal of A-6 and KA-6/S-3 tanker.

The Harpoon so large ( fins ) does not fit into internal bays only external pylons may be equipped, ASM NSM/JSM get in
internal bays.

You can put in internal bays for F-35A/C weapons 4.2 m long and 0.64 m diameter, for B 3.85/0.64 the internal bays shorter backwards because vertical flight system with also a tank in less.

The F-35 A has actually been flown to 9.9gs so it is much better in instantaneous turn rate than it would appear, and they are working on the F-135 to give about a 5% thrust increase, it will get better, the F-18 will likely have a rough time in any type of contested airspace with serious G2A, IMHO. Brat
 

bd popeye

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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

The future air wing (once the new aircraft are available) most likely will consist of:

Air Superiority/Attack: F/A-18E/F - 2 Squadrons (24 aircraft)
Attack/Air Defense: F-35C - 2 Squadrons (24 Aircraft)
Recon/Patrol/strike: UCAV (X-47B follow-on) - 1 Squadron (8 Aircraft)
Electronic: EF-18G - 1 Squadron (4 Aircraft)
AEW: E-2D - 1 Squadron (4 Aircraft)
COD: C-2 - 1 Squadron (2 Aircraft)
ASW/SAR: UH-60 - 1 Squadron (4 Aircraft)

At some point, many of us hope that they add:

ASW: SV-22 Osprey - 1 Squadron (10 Aircraft)

But we shall see. At some point the Super Hornets will be replaced...but that is probably at least 15-20 years out.

Jeff and others, as of this moment in time some USN E-2 squadrons have 5 aircraft. I don't know if this will continue.
 

FORBIN

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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

Well, the F-35C is not intended to replace the F/A-18E/F Super Hornets. It will primarily replace the older wings of F/A-18C/D Hornets. So, IMHO, another good comparison would be between the F-35C and the F/A-18C/D Hornet.

The future air wing (once the new aircraft are available) most likely will consist of:

Air Superiority/Attack: F/A-18E/F - 2 Squadrons (24 aircraft)
Attack/Air Defense: F-35C - 2 Squadrons (24 Aircraft)
Recon/Patrol/strike: UCAV (X-47B follow-on) - 1 Squadron (8 Aircraft)
Electronic: EF-18G - 1 Squadron (4 Aircraft)
AEW: E-2D - 1 Squadron (4 Aircraft)
COD: C-2 - 1 Squadron (2 Aircraft)
ASW/SAR: UH-60 - 1 Squadron (4 Aircraft)

At some point, many of us hope that they add:

ASW: SV-22 Osprey - 1 Squadron (10 Aircraft)

But we shall see. At some point the Super Hornets will be replaced...but that is probably at least 15-20 years out.

Yes this is the future CAW 2020s with greater range, stealth aircrafts and 56 combat aircrats ( as before ) against 48.
UCAV is a recc/ light bomber aircraft with very great range in more stealth.

For the F-35B, very different of other versions because ofc vertical flight system much more complex than the AV-8, looking like Yak-141 ( successor Yak-38 bad aircraft, very little range and only capable intercept P-3 !!! ).

Especially internal bays is more short relative A/C.
He can receive weapons size 3.85 m long and 0.64 m diameter against 4.2 m/ 0.64 m for A/C.

So it can not carry bombs 907 kg only 454 and AGM-154 : 4.1 m and maybe other weapons...

For every versions i precise now 4 AAM internal after with block 5 : 6 because 2 on the 2 main pylons.

But I have a question for the GBU-31/Mark 84 that it can not take, however long it goes easy she do 3.28 x 0.46 m, it is a matter
mass I think ?
 
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delft

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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

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UNITED KINGDOM
Overweight problems with new F-35B STOVL aircraft scheduled to operate from new QUEEN ELIZABETH class air craft carriers … concerns that the aircraft would have to dump weapons not expended in combat before returning to its aircraft carrier … UK will conduct “shipboard rolling vertical landing” (SRVL) tests instead of vertical landing.
 
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