F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

[Jura The idiot]

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So simulators are the next best thing, and they are very effective teaching tools, and as real as they are, they do lack in some of the finer elements of the flying experience????

to me, the most amazing part of that article is (underlined by me):

A major tool touted by proponents of the F-35 is its data-fusion package. Where a pilot on a legacy jet needs to take inputs from multiple sensors and make a judgment call on what a potential threat is, the F-35's sensor suite gathers that information together and presents a clear picture to the pilot.

That is helpful in operations, but presents a challenge for training against ground targets at test ranges. Older surface-to-air weapon systems, such as an SA-6, can be spoofed using emitters and receivers to look more like an advanced integrated air defense system that might be seen in advanced operations.

Steven Pennington, director of Bases, Ranges and Airspace for the Air Force, however, notes that the F-35's sensor fusion takes in the information and dismisses the spoof as bad data, identifying the system as the correct older model. In other words, the plane is too advanced to be fooled — even for training purposes.

 

[Air Force Brat]

to me, the most amazing part of that article is (underlined by me):

That is amazing Jura, and as I have in the past stated about the J-20, I will add that the F-35 is a very smart airplane!

 

[Equation]

Oh god, here comes another doom and gloom story. So what, at least it could still fire it's missiles till 2019 rolls around.

At this point, it's not even funny how much the Pentagon has screwed up the development of its new stealth fighter jet, the F-35. But the latest report that the jet's 25mm cannon won't be operational until 2019 at the earliest is just laughable. Even more laughable is that it probably doesn't even need the gun to begin with.

Unnamed Air Force officials revealed the bad news in a Daily Beast story about the F-35. Apparently the software that will power the four-barreled rotary cannon on the Air Force version of the jet, the F-35A, won't be ready for at least four more years. The Navy and Marine Corps version use a different cannon, but it'll also be years before the software's ready for those guns.

The real kicker here is that the gun is probably just dead weight (read: a waste of taxpayer dollars) anyways. The F-35A's cannon can fire 3,300 rounds per minute but can only hold 180 rounds. "I would be lying if I said there exists any plausible tactical air-to-air scenario where the F-35 will need to employ the gun," one senior Air Force official told the Daily Beast. "Personally, I just don't see it ever happening and think they should have saved the weight [by getting rid of the gun altogether]."

The jet, which is also known as the Joint Strike Fighter, is already the most expensive weapon in American history. It's expected to cost the Pentagon well over $1 trillion over the next 50 years. And little hiccups like this only add more taxpayer dollars to that price tag.

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[Brumby]

Oh god, here comes another doom and gloom story. So what, at least it could still fire it's missiles till 2019 rolls around.

I think the F-4 background does put people wary of entirely removing the gun but at the rate of fire it is only good for a 3 sec burst. Maybe we are truly seeing a transitionary phase to energy weapon to eventually replace the gun.

The other point of note from the article is that considering the effort put in to have a common platform (and the compromises that went with it) they can't even have a common solution to the gun problem.

 

[Air Force Brat]

I think the F-4 background does put people wary of entirely removing the gun but at the rate of fire it is only good for a 3 sec burst. Maybe we are truly seeing a transitionary phase to energy weapon to eventually replace the gun.

The other point of note from the article is that considering the effort put in to have a common platform (and the compromises that went with it) they can't even have a common solution to the gun problem.

Well, its like this, you can't go guns up, if you're not packing heat? We're talking a cannon here gents, ammo is heavy, this is where you've got to make choices, and were the smart lads make the decisions. Now the recliner fighter pilots, I know, I do it too, but really, these things are about packing the most capability we can, into a small compact aircraft. Now the software issue is just kinda "dumb", even the AFB knows that, why I'm still an analogue kinda old dude?

 

[FORBIN]

Exist a official reports for the 2 F-35A and 2 F-35B added to LRIP 9 by the Congress Omnibus Spending Bill ? initialy 26 A, 6B and 2C maybe funded but no order yet formalised ?

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YF-23 would was the best mainly for back but don 't get vectored thrust and armed with only 5 AAM.

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About $1.2 billion for 90 : 13 by F-35 not only software, weapons adaptation, wiring but also repair structural problem cracks which had appeared on several, for engine Pratt and Whitney pay ?

 

[Jura The idiot]

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says

It doesn’t carry any short-range, dogfighting missiles like the Raytheon AIM-9X Sidewinder when it’s in a stealthy configuration.

(I missed that, but a poster in another thread http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/world-armed-forces/pak-fa-fgfa-discussions-9-7155.html#post321273 didn't)
Is it true? it seems to be:

The F-35 has 2 hardpoints designed exclusively for the Sidewinder and ASRAAM air-to-air missiles.

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EDIT
now I found this:

Carrying the ASRAAM outside the weapons bay brings several advantages, primarily in allowing passive long-range – beyond-visual-range (BVR) – engagements cued by the missile’s seeker or the F-35’s infrared search and track sensor.

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... yeah, I've noticed the article is old ... hope you guys will comment (maybe you've been through this here

 

[Jura The idiot]

... Now the software issue is just kinda "dumb", even the AFB knows that, why I'm still an analogue kinda old dude?

most recent

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mentions software

 

[Air Force Brat]

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mentions software

That's our ole buddy Dave, he has to write those gotcha articles to support his 12 kids and 4 ex-wives, he's selling a product dudes, thinks he's gonna be one of those real journalists someday. Honestly he's like some of our more "colorful" folks around here, He thinks he's on 60 minutes, this is just more bs krap like one of our own little buddies is becoming famous for. I really like Dave, but he's really got to support those 4 ex-wives, and he has three children with each of them, not to mention the 2 or 3 other children with girlfriends, so I would suggest you take his articles just as seriously as this post by the AFB, makes me feel all smarmy printing this krap, just like Dave oughta feel. The F-35 is being "educated" and brought up to speed even as we speak, it is an electronic wonder, did anyone mention to you characters that it is a smart airplane, it is complicated, and it is expensive. That 25 MM gun will cut a Bear Bomba in half in about,,,,the length of time it takes you to blink twice

Oh and Ladies, relax, Dave said the checks are in the mail???? Sorry Dave, but fairey tales are really old hat?

Oh and for you lads that really are looking for the truth, our buds on Defense Talk have a much better handle on this than folks seem to here on SDF??? lots of people looking to discredit the F-35, most them bad guys??? Heh! Heh! oh brother???

Honestly gents, NOBODY in the real USAF would give this clown the time of day unless they are "disgruntled" third or fourth tier folks, the test pilots, USAF, NAVY, and MARINE pilots, not to mention the partners flying the F-35, are impressed by and large, and they deal with the realities of an electric jet every day???

 

[Jura The idiot]

That's our ole buddy Dave, he has to write those gotcha articles to support his 12 kids and 4 ex-wives, he's selling a product dudes, thinks he's gonna be one of those real journalists someday. ...

AFB, I gave you Like but ... who's Dave?? that defensetech.org article was written by
Brendan McGarry