BrotherofSnake
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Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF
I think HMS means Helmet Mounted System or something like that.
I think HMS means Helmet Mounted System or something like that.
F-22 Raptor 5th Generation Stealth Fighter
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Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF
yea, it's Helmet Mounted Sight, it helps pilots lock onto other aircraft without pointing the nose of the plane or missile at it, but simply looking at that plane; it's used more in a dogfight than BVR; it lets pilots lock off boresight
yea, it's Helmet Mounted Sight, it helps pilots lock onto other aircraft without pointing the nose of the plane or missile at it, but simply looking at that plane; it's used more in a dogfight than BVR; it lets pilots lock off boresight
BrotherofSnake
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Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF
I know what it is. We are developing a system like this. It's called the Joint Mounted Cueing System (JHMS).
I know what it is. We are developing a system like this. It's called the Joint Mounted Cueing System (JHMS).
MIGleader
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Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF
yes, the f-22 is fitted with a nms, alhough the introducton of it is a bit late, behing thales and the russians. thats how an f-22 can kick an f-15's ass.
i think all chinese j-10s and 11's are fitted with an arsenal hms or a loyang model.
yes, the f-22 is fitted with a nms, alhough the introducton of it is a bit late, behing thales and the russians. thats how an f-22 can kick an f-15's ass.
i think all chinese j-10s and 11's are fitted with an arsenal hms or a loyang model.
Air Combat Training
I am curious about what the amount of training and what are the experience levels of the three nations in question. Obviously the USAF,USMC and USN in our society while keeping much about their training classified, are very well trained in several aspects of air combat. Now and wisely so, the DOD has made sure to train pilots and aircrews from each service in the capabilities of their sisters services and their aircraft. For instance, at Nellis AFB, you will see USAF,State ANG,USAFRes F16s flying missions with USN/USMC/CAF Hornets, USAF and ANG F15s against various Hornets,Vipers and soon aggresor F15s.
The US Navy has an extensive Adversary program:
VFA-201
VFA-204
VMFA-134
VMFA-142
VMFAT-101
VFC-12*
VFC-13 *
VMFT-401*
NSAWC* (Top Gun)
*Deadicated DACT units, the other unist do a large amount of DACT training for USAF,USN,USMC and NATO units.
In addition to the various Hornets,Vipers and F5s, the USN and USMC get support from various civilian contrators who fly special aircraft dissimilar to USMC/USN aircraft. I was very happy to be able to inspect a Learjet which does target tug duties at NAS Oceana. Cool to see 20mm holes in the banner. Aircraft flown by private companies include:
TA-4F/J
A-4E/H
L-39
Saab Draken
Kfiri F-21s (ATAC Inc. great outfit!!)
Contrary to what has been said, the US Navy tends to send nuggets to places like Poland,Israel and other nations to fly against dissimilar aircraft. These nuggets have already fought in ACM against Hornets,Super Hornets and F14s. But real MiG-21s,Fulcrums and other aircraft are valuable tools in teaching them to deal with various aircraft.
I am curious if the PLAAF or PLAN have an Adversary/Aggressor program. Russia,Japan and other nations operate these special units but not on the level of the USAF or USN/USMC.
I am curious about what the amount of training and what are the experience levels of the three nations in question. Obviously the USAF,USMC and USN in our society while keeping much about their training classified, are very well trained in several aspects of air combat. Now and wisely so, the DOD has made sure to train pilots and aircrews from each service in the capabilities of their sisters services and their aircraft. For instance, at Nellis AFB, you will see USAF,State ANG,USAFRes F16s flying missions with USN/USMC/CAF Hornets, USAF and ANG F15s against various Hornets,Vipers and soon aggresor F15s.
The US Navy has an extensive Adversary program:
VFA-201
VFA-204
VMFA-134
VMFA-142
VMFAT-101
VFC-12*
VFC-13 *
VMFT-401*
NSAWC* (Top Gun)
*Deadicated DACT units, the other unist do a large amount of DACT training for USAF,USN,USMC and NATO units.
In addition to the various Hornets,Vipers and F5s, the USN and USMC get support from various civilian contrators who fly special aircraft dissimilar to USMC/USN aircraft. I was very happy to be able to inspect a Learjet which does target tug duties at NAS Oceana. Cool to see 20mm holes in the banner. Aircraft flown by private companies include:
TA-4F/J
A-4E/H
L-39
Saab Draken
Kfiri F-21s (ATAC Inc. great outfit!!)
Contrary to what has been said, the US Navy tends to send nuggets to places like Poland,Israel and other nations to fly against dissimilar aircraft. These nuggets have already fought in ACM against Hornets,Super Hornets and F14s. But real MiG-21s,Fulcrums and other aircraft are valuable tools in teaching them to deal with various aircraft.
I am curious if the PLAAF or PLAN have an Adversary/Aggressor program. Russia,Japan and other nations operate these special units but not on the level of the USAF or USN/USMC.
Chairman Hu
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Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF
Meh Im better off in combat for my training
HMS is needed, but still...
I only needed to know how a few things works and I got everything remembered... so... meh
The J-XX will beat 5 Eagles when it comes out
Meh Im better off in combat for my training
HMS is needed, but still...
I only needed to know how a few things works and I got everything remembered... so... meh
The J-XX will beat 5 Eagles when it comes out
BrotherofSnake
Junior Member
Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF
The USN might buy a few flankers from Russia to serve as aggressors. This only a rumor though.
The USN might buy a few flankers from Russia to serve as aggressors. This only a rumor though.
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I doubt the USN would buy Flankers, I dont think Russia would sell them to us. Besides, the US Navy when it wants nuggets to get very special training will go to a nation with the aircraft they want the nuggets to see or will invite them here. Examples:
Instructor Pilots and Adversary Pilots from VFA106 and VFC12 often went to Germany to fly with and against MiG-29s.
A friend of mine and his USMCR squadron deployed to Poland for training with PAF MiG-29s and SU-20s.
Live Winder 2002 saw F18Cs,F18Es,F16s,F15s and MiG-29s training in Key West Florida.
The Cope Thunder,Cope India,Bright Star and Cobra Gold give US pilots and crews experience with MiG-17s,-21s,-23s,-25s,-27s,-29s and SU-27s and 30s.
Training is always a major factor in air combat. Does the PLAAF and PLAN have electronic training ranges similar to that of Russia or the US?
I doubt the USN would buy Flankers, I dont think Russia would sell them to us. Besides, the US Navy when it wants nuggets to get very special training will go to a nation with the aircraft they want the nuggets to see or will invite them here. Examples:
Instructor Pilots and Adversary Pilots from VFA106 and VFC12 often went to Germany to fly with and against MiG-29s.
A friend of mine and his USMCR squadron deployed to Poland for training with PAF MiG-29s and SU-20s.
Live Winder 2002 saw F18Cs,F18Es,F16s,F15s and MiG-29s training in Key West Florida.
The Cope Thunder,Cope India,Bright Star and Cobra Gold give US pilots and crews experience with MiG-17s,-21s,-23s,-25s,-27s,-29s and SU-27s and 30s.
Training is always a major factor in air combat. Does the PLAAF and PLAN have electronic training ranges similar to that of Russia or the US?
MIGleader
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Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF
quote:Training is always a major factor in air combat. Does the PLAAF and PLAN have electronic training ranges similar to that of Russia or the US?
china is huge, bigger than the u.s. what else do you expect them to do with that space?
quote:Training is always a major factor in air combat. Does the PLAAF and PLAN have electronic training ranges similar to that of Russia or the US?
china is huge, bigger than the u.s. what else do you expect them to do with that space?
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