F-22 Raptor 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

MIGleader said:

the way a j-7 beats an f-22...wait till the f-22 wastes its missles on other planes, then ambush it. only works in a2a.

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J-7 cannot catch the F-22.

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

lol, isn't the J-7 just another MiG-21 clone?

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

remember guys, F-22 got supercruise, that means once it have depleted its ammo, it can also make a fast getaway. so it's almost impossible for the J-7 to catch up to it and try to shot it down, unless you got a few J-7s directly in its path and all firing missiles at it.

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PiSigma said:

remember guys, F-22 got supercruise, that means once it have depleted its ammo, it can also make a fast getaway. so it's almost impossible for the J-7 to catch up to it and try to shot it down, unless you got a few J-7s directly in its path and all firing missiles at it.

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that's why I said, get F-22 to waste its ammo, put 100 J-7 around it and fly in random directions really fast and hope they crash into it. lol

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Actually, if a f22 is dumb enough to get into a dogfight with an overwhelming number of j7s then its supercruise wont help it. Sure, in the long run j7s could not possibly keep up. But for a short while, j7s could not only keep up but they could be faster w afterburner than f22 could be using its afterburners. And that short while would be enough for them to fire their R73s or whatever they'd be carrying.

Realistically, though, when that f22 sees such a huge number of enemy planes, it'd fire its amraams then turn around, not risk a dogfight unless absolutely necessary. Basically it comes down to number of raptors available and how many sorties they could do in a given time.

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if the F-22 does get into a dogfight with an overwhelming majority og J-7 then no thought it will be shot down, but what if it was vsing one on one with an J-10 or J-11? whoevers got HMS will get a major boost but it will more come down to training

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well, F-22 is built for all types of air combat. I'd think it would have no problem taking down a J-10/11. The only plane that might give it a little problem in dogfights is something like su-37 or eurofighter tycoon.

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if the pilot doesn't have HMS then J-10 or J-11 pilots might have the advantage (if the PLAAF does equip it to their pilots), since it will compromise for the TVC

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

swimmerXC said:

if the pilot doesn't have HMS then J-10 or J-11 pilots might have the advantage (if the PLAAF does equip it to their pilots), since it will compromise for the TVC

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J-10 should be equipped with it.

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

what teh HMS?

of course, I dont think China will leave anything out that is important