F-15 Eagle Thread

[thunderchief]

If you,re quoting him, he is your source, name and forum so we can make our own judgement, however his/your hypothesis is bogus, and just an attempt to engender questions, where there are none, actually hurting your own credibility.

Here you go , knock yourself out (reply from guy called spetznaz ) :

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Now I love your avatar, so I'm attempting to bring you up to speed, but when we are discussing why the F-15SE was choosen over the more stealthy and highly sophisticated F-35, its money, pure and simple, possibly the South Koreans prefer NOT to tick off the neighbors, by purchasing the F-35 STRIKE fighter, an offensive weapon, and intimating that we would sell an "adulterated" F-35 to the South Koreans, implys some dishonesty, all F-35s will be fully mission capable, and include the various weapons systems native to the purchaser, at their discretion, but the beauty of the partner system is that everyone gets a very potent bird. This deal is not a done deal yet, and South Korea may yet purchase the F-35. brat

It could be money , it could be wish not to intimidate China , it could be anything , but I'm not going to dismiss story about various levels of stealthiness for various buyers just yet .

 

[Air Force Brat]

Here you go , knock yourself out (reply from guy called spetznaz ) :

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It could be money , it could be wish not to intimidate China , it could be anything , but I'm not going to dismiss story about various levels of stealthiness for various buyers just yet .

Thank you, the F-15SE is a great airplane, it has a great deal to commend it, not the least of which are its twin engine configuration, lots of wing etc, etc, will it get canted tails, I would hope so, but I sincerely doubt it....If you read the spetznaz post he makes some great points for the F-15SE, but his main point is simply not true, if the South Koreans buy the F-35, they will get the full on L/O bird, it will be much stealthier than the F-15SE, it will also be much more expensive, and much more complex, and very new technology, ie much more expensive to maintain and operate IMHO. brat

 

[FORBIN]

Before 64th Agressor sqn is inactivated a point on the USAF F-15 fleet :

250 F-15 C/D, Active holds 120 and ANG 130.
Although 64th is inactivated F-15 number remain the same because its fighters will go to other units.
And 219 F-15E all in Active.

Units and number :

Active :
F-15E
Nellis ( Nevada ) :57 W/17 Weap Sqn, some ; 422 Test Ev Squ, some
Eglin ( Florida ) : 53 W/ 85 Test Ev Sqn, 1
Seymour Johnson ( NC): 4 FW/333,334,335,336 FS : 4 x 24 the most powerful USAF unit and also in the world.
Moutain Home ( IDAHO ): 366 FW / 389,391 FS : 2 x 24
Lakenheath ( UK) :48 FW /492,494 FS 2 x 24

F-15C/D
Eglin ( Florida ) : 53 W/ 85 Test Ev Sqn, some
Nellis ( Nevada ) : 57 W/65 Agr Sqn, 19, inactivated 09/14 7 go to 64 Agr and 12 ANG. And 433 Weap Sqn, 24 F-15 C/D,
422 Test Ev Squ, some.
Lakenheath ( UK) : 48 FW /493 FS, 24 F-15 C/D.
KADENA ( Japan ) : 18 W /44,67 FS, 48 F-15 C/D

ANG, F-15C/D
CA, Fresno 144 FW/194 FS, 21 F-15C/D
Florida, Jacksonville, 125 FW/159 FS, 21 F-15C/D
Louisiana, La Nouvelle Orléans, 159 FW/122 FS, 21 F-15C/D
Massachussets, Barnes, 101 FW/101 FS, 21 F-15C/D
Oregon, Portland, 142 FW/123 FS, 21 F-15C/D
Oregon, Klanathfalls, 173 FW/114 FS, OCU, 21+ F-15C/D

F-15E will be upgraded with AESA radars and i think planned for the moment about 170 C/D.

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[Jeff Head]

Before 64th Agressor sqn is inactivated a point on the USAF F-15 fleet :

250 F-15 C/D, Active holds 120 and ANG 130.

I thought it was 114 active and 140 ANG?

With the air superiority capability of the F-15E, the Eagles, along with the Raptors, provide a major portion of the USAF air superiority capability.

F-22 - 184 aircraft
F-15E - 219 aircraft
F-15C/D - 254 aircraft

That's a total of 657 major air superiority aircraft available, 473 of them are Eagles.

This of course does not include the almost 850 F-16s operated by the USAF, ANG, etc. or the many hundreds of US Navy and US Marine Hornets, Super Hornets, Harrier, etc. aircraft.

 

[FORBIN]

Very difficult for know exact numbers between USAF services.

F-15E are used mainly for Bombardement / interdiction, air to air combat is a secondary mission for him.
With 11 t weapons and can carry the GBU-28 ( 2 t ! ) it is very valuable for this.

In Baltic States for air police/interception missions it is always the 48 FW F-15C deployed never F-15E.

I don' t found a F-16 thread, we have ?

 

[Jeff Head]

Very difficult for know exact numbers between USAF services.

F-15E are used mainly for Bombardement / interdiction, air to air combat is a secondary mission for him.
With 11 t weapons and can carry the GBU-28 ( 2 t ! ) it is very valuable for this.

In Baltic States for air police/interception missions it is always the 48 FW F-15C deployed never F-15E.

Ah, it s true that the Echo is a strike aircraft, and very good at it. But it also retains all of the air to air capabilities and can perform as an effective air superiority fighter, particularly when long range, long loiter is required.

They were used very effectively in this regard in monitoring the no fly zones over Iraq in the years after the first gulf war.

I don' t found a F-16 thread, we have ?

We do now:

F-16 Falcon Threadhttp://www.sinodefenceforum.com/world-armed-forces/f-16-falcon-thread-6979.html

 

[FORBIN]

Singapore quietly expanding F-15 fleet

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Singapore use the best version SG with AESA radar pending new Saudi F-15SA and USAF F-15E
modernized.

Singapore AF have 2 units on F-15SG :
149th Sqn, 14 F-15 SG based to Paya Lebar and 428 FTS/OCU, 10 F-15 SG based to Mountain Home/USA.

Singapore is a very small country and lack of space / airspace and have all this OCU units based in allied foreign countries

 

[Air Force Brat]

Singapore quietly expanding F-15 fleet

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Singapore use the best version SG with AESA radar pending new Saudi F-15SA and USAF F-15E
modernized.

Singapore AF have 2 units on F-15SG :
149th Sqn, 14 F-15 SG based to Paya Lebar and 428 FTS/OCU, 10 F-15 SG based to Mountain Home/USA.

Singapore is a very small country and lack of space / airspace and have all this OCU units based in allied foreign countries

they are in the US to take advantage of the fabulous training opportunities provided by the most competent and effective Air Force on the Planet. The F-15SG is a very competent and capable fighter aircraft, and the fact that they are purchasing them still should be sufficient proof to all that the F-15 airframe is viable, and by no means inferior to "any" other fourth gen, even the lovely Su-27 Flanker, and her derivatives. It is also very practical and reliable, and for a country the size of Singapore, you better have a strong leading left hook, followed by a killer right. The F-15SG is that one-two punch!

 

[Scratch]

Re: F-16 Falcon Thread

Though the advanced Super Hornet is just a "showroom model" as of now, no operationel units of even orders, if I'm correct.

On the Eagles, I believe those CFTs mount to all versions. Although only the Strike Eagles use them on a regular basis. The ones stationed on Iceland earlier were the only C models to regularly fly them, due to the ranges involved. Or so I seem to remember.

 

[Scratch]

I think the singaporians (is that how you call them correctly?) also use a pretty capable JHMCS system. Not exactly sure up to which standard they are.
Are these now also generally used in those US aircraft? I've seen a version in dutch F-16s also, I think.