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ougoah

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The two ships are designed for very different missions: one is an ASW frigate, the other is a guided missile destroyer with emphasis on anti-air.

The radars on the F126 frigate are significantly weaker in air search capability compared to Type 346B. They are optimized for medium range self-defense and horizon search, with apparently some over the horizon search capability as well.

As most modern ASW ships, this frigate has an electric drive important for fuel economy and ASW patrol efficiency.

It seems to emphasize survivability or staying power to some extent, by widely separating its propulsion and sensors into two masts.

The curious thing is that it is a Dutch design (Damen), even though the customer is the German Navy.

Yes I am aware these are very different types of ships.

It is a lighthearted comment that so many design elements - just superficial surface appearances do indeed copy from 055.
 

Michaelsinodef

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Yes I am aware these are very different types of ships.

It is a lighthearted comment that so many design elements - just superficial surface appearances do indeed copy from 055.
More likely, that when the 055 came out, basically all the bigger navies around the world took note and have since followed it.

The US next DDG(X) can also be said to have taken elements from it.
 

ficker22

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F*ck those a*sh*le EU and German government!


They f' ed us over with F-35 they f**k us over AGAIN with their Patriot shit.
They have 0 interest in europes long term security and existence only short term for daddy america points, so that those f***a** brussels and berlin traitors can retire in Florida ( See von der Leyen).

Xi, where is the Tiger and Fly campaign in Europe?

Eurofighter is not 5 gen I get it, but it cost only 65 million for germany per piece and fulfills the mission, instead of 100+ million for this F-35 spyware shit!

In fact we have to build new blast hangars since the german ones dont fit for the F-35 programm, so millions for separate bunkers and hangars for one aircraft type only....

Beyond stupid....


MEADS was EU project to bolster Europes MIC and to be come more independent from non EU NATO technology, now becoming irrelevant since EU stays slave dog of daddy USA.....


Same with FCAS/SCAF and EMBT, the European partners cant agree because democracy is sooooooo great....

In the end, this mongo bongo continent should stay US colony forever, should buy overpriced F-35 shit, die from its russian sanctions.


I can puke, what the heck!
 
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meckhardt98

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New Czech 155mm 8x8 mobile self propelled gun concept in development by Excalibur Army intended to replace the ZUZANA and DANA platforms.

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The new 155mm “MORANA” is touted as having the ability to start firing [40] seconds after entering the firing position. The main armament is controlled from the cabin of the vehicle; utilizing an unmanned turret with an auto loader. The vehicle is being explicitly designed with NATO interoperability in mind.
 

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pmc

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MEADS was EU project to bolster Europes MIC and to be come more independent from non EU NATO technology, now becoming irrelevant since EU stays slave dog of daddy USA.....


Same with FCAS/SCAF and EMBT, the European partners cant agree because democracy is sooooooo great....
Europeans are never going to put manpower and wealth to create viable production line for complex arms products considering the future input costs Europe is going to face. it is logical they buy American what is available. only risk is dollar get too strong or there is reliability problem in the product by entirely relying on US product.
 

ficker22

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Europeans are never going to put manpower and wealth to create viable production line for complex arms products considering the future input costs Europe is going to face. it is logical they buy American what is available. only risk is dollar get too strong or there is reliability problem in the product by entirely relying on US product.
Feels kinda funny, a block of 480 million peoples gets outsmarted and outpaced....

By the americans.
 

pmc

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Europeans cannot make Airbus without Americans. it is not like Europeans have done so much better in the field where they actually mass produced. This time if Germany de-industrialize it will take down France also on same path. all those French systems that were exported become unserviceable.

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Janiz

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When a war is happening next door you move very fast and when your relationship with the German government are not in their best you go to a different provider and if it on top he give you a good price you can go big and the list below reflect that
It seems like German defense industry might have been just jeopardized throughout the European market. Unlike France they've slipped into 'unreliable' territory and it will take them decades to rebuild the political trust. No one likes to buy things from a party which can say 'we don't want to provoke country x' when you ask for spare parts in emergency.
 
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