Europe Refugee Crisis

Equation

Lieutenant General
I'm honestly not prepared to take that, IMO, lame excuse.
Many of those Gulf States are still rather sparsely populated (in general) and very obviously are too small (as in citizens) to sustain their own construction work force requirenments. As shown by that large number of foreign workers. Now here is a large group of peolpe "available" that speaks their language and is culturally very close to their own population. So inducting them as new citizens should be the easiest thing for them to do. The Gulf States have the money and the jobs to do so. Besides they are also always the ones to shout, mainly west-ward, for support and solidarity with their arab "brothers", and /or brothers in faith.

Yet they outright reject the refugees. I've seen the idea that a reason for this is exactly because the refugees speak the language of the local population and as such may very easily transfer news of what's going on really. Which may bring about problems for the Gulf states with their own citizens, not being too happy about what's going on.

I also do not buy that money argument. The same topic came up here very resently in Germany. Saudi Arabia declared they were ready to financially support by building 200 more mosques. Now considering the religious philosophy of that state, I think that offer was particularly not helpfull or honest in actually caring for the refugees.

Maybe perhaps it's not about money, but deep inside it's rather about ethnicity or race background that some of these gulf states refused to take in refugees because it might cause social tensions that they are not yet ready to deal with. I'm not saying it's a valid excuse but rather a possible reason why their government are being cautious.
 

broadsword

Brigadier
The US is not taking enough refugees.

US must step up more for Syrian refugees

US President Barack Obama has directed his team to prepare to take in 10,000 Syrian refugees in the next fiscal year.

This is a major scaling up compared to the just 1,500 Syrian refugees it has accepted since the start of the Syrian civil war in 2011.

It is indeed a positive step by the US. However, it is only a small step. Although the US may think it has tried hard, the world is not satisfied.

The UN refugee agency on Friday welcomed the US move, but said the new offer is still far from enough given the scale of people fleeing war in Syria, and the US "could and should do much more."

David Miliband, former British foreign secretary who currently heads the New York-based International Rescue Committee, has called on the US to take 65,000 Syrian refugees next year.

It is true that accepting more than 10,000 refugees from the war-torn Middle East at once will be painful for the US. But it is necessary for the US to accept this pain.

The humanitarian crisis is a result of Syrian civil war. The US is aware that it has played a major role in causing the war.

Although the US government and media are reluctant to reflect on this, taking in the refugees will help them rethink the US policies in the Middle East.

In recent years, the US has been encouraging color revolutions in non-Western countries. The US government, its media and civil society have been supporting and sometimes guiding the unrest in these countries.

The US gestures have worsened the situation in some chaotic areas. It is important for Washington to withdraw its support for color revolutions, especially in the Middle East and North Africa regions.


Some US Republican politicians are opposed to accepting refugees, saying potential terrorists could enter the US territory along with the refugees. European countries and other countries which take in refugees also have this concern, but they still opened their doors.

The US should shoulder its responsibility and deal with its concerns.

The refugee crisis this time has broken the border lines of European countries. To some extent, it may encourage future refugees to flow to the developed countries.

If the US and the EU want to cool down the refugee crisis and prevent a new crisis, they will need to strive to reduce the sources of regional chaos and military conflicts.


The ongoing humanitarian crisis has indicated that the interests of the developed countries are entangled with the war-torn countries.

It will become less likely that the developed countries can keep major upheavals in the less-developed countries from affecting them.
 

delft

Brigadier
At the same time, there are people who are seriously oppressed, jailed, tortured and killed for their beliefs.
True, but they were pretty safe until foreign governments started to sponsor "rebels" in the country. The solution must be to kill or drive out all terrorists and any other "rebels" and then organize elections. Of course political parties sympathetic to those sponsors will not be popular with the voters. They might take a quarter of a century to prove their values.
 

Jeff Head

General
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Blackstone

Brigadier
Germany expects 1 million refugees this year. That is mind boggling!!!

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I fully understand and appreciate war refugees hoping for better lives in Europe, and in their place, I'd do the same. But at some point, the flood of humanity is more like an invasion than controlled immigration. Millions of Muslims with little history of assimilation into European mainstream could change their host countries in fundamental ways, and it's clear the majority of host country citizens have concerns about opening their doors.

The moral of the story is be careful of what you wish for (deposing Middle East tyrants), because you might just get it. A good object lesson for America.
 

delft

Brigadier
I fully understand and appreciate war refugees hoping for better lives in Europe, and in their place, I'd do the same. But at some point, the flood of humanity is more like an invasion than controlled immigration. Millions of Muslims with little history of assimilation into European mainstream could change their host countries in fundamental ways, and it's clear the majority of host country citizens have concerns about opening their doors.

The moral of the story is be careful of what you wish for (deposing Middle East tyrants), because you might just get it. A good object lesson for America.
You can continue that game for a long time. Bahrain anyone?
 

Scratch

Captain
Germany expects 1 million refugees this year. That is mind boggling!!!

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In the past few days, at first Denmark stopped almost all border traffic with Germay due to the uncontrolled movement of refugees northbound. Then on the weekend Austrian-German rail traffic was halted shortly due to the large number of people on the move. Many of them unregistered.
And the numbers seem to be still growing. I almost feel like seeing impending signes of a collaps.

Hungary reported to have finished it's new border fence along it's serbian border today and closed it. Maybe a short respite, until the stream finds a new way somewhere.


In 1914 the Netherlands with then 6.7 million inhabitants received a million Belgians in the period August to the end of the year, i.e. in about five months.

While numbers wise immensely more impressive than what we see today, I dare argue that it generally is easier to accept / integrate large amounts of people that, more or less, speak your language and are already very accustomed to your own daily way of life.
Similar to how the german occupied zones ingested about 12 million people after WW II. That is often used as an example these days for way todays challange is not a real problem. I think, however, that it is a dishonest statement; for the reasons above.
 
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