Espionage involving China

Xizor

Captain
Registered Member
Basically cookie cutter copy paste colour revolution playbook tricks being applied.

Online you have new throwaway accounts (using international version of apps as opposed to Chinese domestic versions, and often using traditional characters as opposed to traditional) taking a shit spraying approach of posting massive numbers of fake stories and seeing what sticks/gains traction. With big accounts with lots of followers then reposting/liking those stories to maximise exposure.

You also have spammers telling people to repost/like these fake news stories, with the promise of 1 in xxx number getting 200 yuan as a way to inflate numbers and manufacture interest.

On ground you have overwhelmingly non-locals moving in to protest outside of the school. When a school representative came out to speak to the crowd, none of the idiots could understand what she was saying because she had a strong sichuan local accent. So the crowd started shouting slogans in standard mandarin and started to physically assault the school rep. As soon as police moved in they started screaming police brutality.

Classic western intelligence chaos seeding tactics to manufacture issues from nothing and using fake news to get their lies out before the police has even had time to start investigating and drowning out the true with an avalanche of shit and lies.
Wait. How can a school admin vs public issue become a color revolution? That too in Chengdu, of all places?

Such disputes happen around the world (wherever schools exist).

incroyable
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
Basically cookie cutter copy paste colour revolution playbook tricks being applied.

Online you have new throwaway accounts (using international version of apps as opposed to Chinese domestic versions, and often using traditional characters as opposed to traditional) taking a shit spraying approach of posting massive numbers of fake stories and seeing what sticks/gains traction. With big accounts with lots of followers then reposting/liking those stories to maximise exposure.

You also have spammers telling people to repost/like these fake news stories, with the promise of 1 in xxx number getting 200 yuan as a way to inflate numbers and manufacture interest.

On ground you have overwhelmingly non-locals moving in to protest outside of the school. When a school representative came out to speak to the crowd, none of the idiots could understand what she was saying because she had a strong sichuan local accent. So the crowd started shouting slogans in standard mandarin and started to physically assault the school rep. As soon as police moved in they started screaming police brutality.

Classic western intelligence chaos seeding tactics to manufacture issues from nothing and using fake news to get their lies out before the police has even had time to start investigating and drowning out the true with an avalanche of shit and lies.
I dont see how the Chinese internal security agency cant find these people.

Use AI to find posts related to this incident. Then find if any people said "with the promise of 1 in xxx number getting 200 yuan as a way to inflate numbers and manufacture interest" and if they are in China arrest them and throw them to jail.

Then the people who ACCEPTED the money and reposted should also be thrown into administrative detention and warn them that another incident like themis will find them formally charged in court

Then also find out who participated into the protest and find out WHO made them "riot" (you know, similar to these HK protests...).

Investigate and charge them in court.

Seems that the Chinese State Security agency was caught sleeping at the wheel.
Don't they have AI tools to warn them if something happened that attracts a lot of attention?
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
Mind you that this is only if the protest was instigated by western agents.

If the protest was justifiable then the school should take responsibility.
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
Super Moderator
Mind you that this is only if the protest was instigated by western agents.

If the protest was justifiable then the school should take responsibility.

The school was responsible but the protest was definitely straight out of the color revolution playbook.

Still I find it odd that they’d try something in Chengdu of all places. What failed in Hongkong has a chance of succeeding in the heartland of China?
 

LawLeadsToPeace

Senior Member
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
Registered Member
Wait. How can a school admin vs public issue become a color revolution? That too in Chengdu, of all places?

Such disputes happen around the world (wherever schools exist).

incroyable
Agitators can blend in with the protestors and start to change the overall message and tactics of the original protest. In Hong Kong, the protestors were originally against the NSL and peacefully protested, but agitators blended in with them and changed the peaceful protest to a violent pro-democracy and pro-independence color revolution. In short, a small ember can become inferno if the right conditions are met.
 

Xizor

Captain
Registered Member
The school was responsible but the protest was definitely straight out of the color revolution playbook.

Still I find it odd that they’d try something in Chengdu of all places. What failed in Hongkong has a chance of succeeding in the heartland of China?
Yes.

@plawolf says that the protesters were Mandarin tongue.

Maybe the school had a bad reputation and history (scandals, corruption, abuse, extortion whatever) and that'd turn into general public being negative and cynical of the school.

Why a school of all places? Why Chengdu? What kind of school is this? What was the past record of the school? Had the school received bad rep in the past?
 

Temstar

Brigadier
Registered Member
Can you briefly explain what happened?

Reddit was celebrating that the CPC was finally getting overthrown lol!
I haven't been keeping up with this news much in the last few days (until today) but I'm aware of it in the background.

The underlying issue is suicide by a high school student, he jumped off the school roof. Police have investigated this issue including viewing surveillance footage with his parents and found nothing nefarious. Seems to be mostly caused by emotional problem due to break up with girlfriend and bad relationship with his mother.

But prior to the police's final report settling the matter rumours were abound on Weibo and so on that it's a murder. Chengdu's education department were partly responsible for the situation because rather than being open and transparent about this they tried to play this matter down initially which gave opportunity for people to claim conspiracy like the principle had him killed because he took up an oversea scholarship position which the principle wanted for his own child etc.

Shortly after rumours started stirring other "odd" observance were found pointing to organised effort behind all the shit stirring:
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Here is someone discussing how to spread word about this issue via paper notes. Note the Chinese entry method - this person is using bopomofo which is a defunct predecessor to pinyin, only in use in places like Hong Kong, Taiwan and some overseas Chinese.

Then people showed up in protest in front of the school gate. It was notable that they only speak mandarin and not Chengdu dialect and all the Chengdu locals do not recognise any of them. They were also photoed uniformly holding up white carnation. White carnation is almost unheard of as a symbol of mourning in China. Instead it's thought if you are photoed holding up white carnation it's easier to sell the photo to CIA handler as you having been at the event. In Chinese culture you pretty much only do wreaths to honour the dead.

Looks like MSS is on the case now. They've apparently already made arrests both among the "protestors" as well as people involved at
Beijing News.

Must be that 300 million US dollarydoos at work right here.
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
Well where there is smoke there is usually fire. Seems to me that the CIA took advantage of the school reputation and handling of its matter in a non-transparent way

That they did all these protests in the open though lol!

The MSS will mop them up quickly
 

Lnk111229

Junior Member
Registered Member
I haven't been keeping up with this news much in the last few days (until today) but I'm aware of it in the background.

The underlying issue is suicide by a high school student, he jumped off the school roof. Police have investigated this issue including viewing surveillance footage with his parents and found nothing nefarious. Seems to be mostly caused by emotional problem due to break up with girlfriend and bad relationship with his mother.

But prior to the police's final report settling the matter rumours were abound on Weibo and so on that it's a murder. Chengdu's education department were partly responsible for the situation because rather than being open and transparent about this they tried to play this matter down initially which gave opportunity for people to claim conspiracy like the principle had him killed because he took up an oversea scholarship position which the principle wanted for his own child etc.

Shortly after rumours started stirring other "odd" observance were found pointing to organised effort behind all the shit stirring:
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Here is someone discussing how to spread word about this issue via paper notes. Note the Chinese entry method - this person is using bopomofo which is a defunct predecessor to pinyin, only in use in places like Hong Kong, Taiwan and some overseas Chinese.

Then people showed up in protest in front of the school gate. It was notable that they only speak mandarin and not Chengdu dialect and all the Chengdu locals do not recognise any of them. They were also photoed uniformly holding up white carnation. White carnation is almost unheard of as a symbol of mourning in China. Instead it's thought if you are photoed holding up white carnation it's easier to sell the photo to CIA handler as you having been at the event. In Chinese culture you pretty much only do wreaths to honour the dead.

Looks like MSS is on the case now. They've apparently already made arrests both among the "protestors" as well as people involved at
Beijing News.

Must be that 300 million US dollarydoos at work right here.
Just for my curious. Is the MSS is real official name? Any interesting story about them?
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
The school was responsible but the protest was definitely straight out of the color revolution playbook.

Still I find it odd that they’d try something in Chengdu of all places. What failed in Hongkong has a chance of succeeding in the heartland of China?

New American administration with new people coming into key positions all over the place. Would not surprise me if it’s some hot head young ‘up and comer’ getting promoted to a position beyond his ability launching this op thinking they can take down ‘big bad China’ all by themselves and make themselves an urban legend overnight.
 
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