Effectiveness of China's Air Defence?

plawolf said:

Why waste it? If they tested it (ie told the world they have this capability) it removes all ambiguity and all potential rivals will pour funds into developing a counter, and it will only be a matter of time before an effective countermeasure is developed and the advantage such a weapons system offers is diminished if not neutralized.

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They will have to test it before they pour money (and a lot of it) into deploying it. They can try and keep such a test a secret from the press...and perhaps succeed. They will not be able to keep it a secret from a nation like the US who will detect a ballitic missile launch and track it.

As to the defense against it, the US (and others) are already well along in that portion. The newer versions of AEGIS have a BMD component which has been tested many times successfully against incoming ballistic missile RVs. The US already has missiles deployed that can shoot down incoming ballistic missiles. They are already testing (and successfully) the use of lasers for defense purposes, and at some point will begin testing charged particle beams for the same.

So, the defenses against just this sort of attack are already in place and getting stronger.

Nonetheless, such a capability, if it existed, to successfully hit a moving warship at sea with a ballistic missile would be a very strong capability and one that retains, even with the defenses, some chance of success. But the Chinese, IMHO, are a long ways from an operational weapon system. When they actually perform a test, shooting a ballistic missile out to sea at a moving vessel (which they will simply not be able to hide) and hit it, then we will know that they are proceeding towards operational deployment.

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http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/strategic-defense/end-carrier-age-27-4918.html

As it seems to be more appropriate there.

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Development of HQ-9 and its phased array started in the early 70s, but encountered numerous difficulties and took much longer than expected. At the later stage of their development, China already got a hand on the S-300 systems so I can’t say it’s impossible that the later might somehow influenced the HQ-9.

However, despite the similar dimension of their launching units, the diameter of the HQ-9 itself is little more than half of the 48N6 and is much slender if you saw pictures of the real thing in the PLAAF museum. That’s firm evident that at least the rocket motor and warhead are not S-300 based. As to the guidance system, I can’t tell for sure, but personally I doubt the influence would be as significant as you thought. Shrink a guidance system to half its original size isn't easy and I'm not sure if that's worth it.

Is there any reading material regarding how 64N6 and 30N6 radars work?

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In my library of pics... That second shot of the intercept with the explosion plume is from a while ago. If another intercept took place then they're using file footage and not anything new.

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schlieffen said:

Development of HQ-9 and its phased array started in the early 70s, but encountered numerous difficulties and took much longer than expected. At the later stage of their development, China already got a hand on the S-300 systems so I can’t say it’s impossible that the later might somehow influenced the HQ-9.

However, despite the similar dimension of their launching units, the diameter of the HQ-9 itself is little more than half of the 48N6 and is much slender if you saw pictures of the real thing in the PLAAF museum. That’s firm evident that at least the rocket motor and warhead are not S-300 based. As to the guidance system, I can’t tell for sure, but personally I doubt the influence would be as significant as you thought. Shrink a guidance system to half its original size isn't easy and I'm not sure if that's worth it.

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All those inuendo about copying and stealing technology is nothing more than ignorance and refusal to believe that China has the capability and know how to develop their own technology. China was subjected to the most stringent embargo ever and Russian is not going to handed their technology on silver plate. read this article and notice how young are the technology pioneer in China They have a long way to go

Chinese Expert greatly improves China’s Radar Technology


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2012-08-09 (China Military News from China-defense-mashup) — Wu Manqing, director of the China Electronics Technology Group Corporation No. 38 Research Institute (CETC-38), the professional head of the People’s Liberation Army General Armament Department of radar technology team, “outstanding contributions young experts in defense technology industry”.

At the age of 31, Wu Manqing was awarded as “Radar Shen Zhongyi Radar Prize”, which is the highest award of Chinese Radar Research Field. One years later he got the “China Youth Science and Technology Award”. When he was 36 years old, served as director of CETC-38. At the age of 44, he was elected the academician of Chinese Academy of Engineering.

The early 1990s, just graduated Wu Manqing successfully presided over the study of “bistatic radar test system”, then push China to the one of advanced countries in the world with related technologies. At the end of the 20th century, on the basis of series successful tests, Wu Manqing first proposed the concept of “digital array radar”, and lead the team successfully developed China’s first digital T/R module and the first digital array radar system. In 2003, Wu Manqing’s team also successfully developed a new 3D radar system then produces a land-mobile 3D radar system, known as the Chinese ground intelligence radar breakthrough to catch up with advanced world level milestone.

According to Chinese Medias, PLA’s “a certain type of” system was once under technology embargo. In 2002, Wu Manqing’s team to overcome a series of technical difficulties and successfully developed China’s first of this type of equipment and changes the situation of important radar system demanding introduction of foreign technology. 2005, Wu Manqing firstly put forward new ideas for using ideas of using the new radar system, and personally served as the chief director of the project. In just three years, his team completes the development work to achieve the overall innovation from the chip to the system, marks China’s radar technology reached the international advanced level. They have developed a type of radar, which successfully observes the space docking and separation of “Tiangong-1″ Space lab and “Shenzhou-8″ Spacecraft. Itsdetection range can reach 1800 km and continuous tracking range to 1300 km, realizing the surveillance of space targets from land-based radar.