Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

Tam said:

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This quote strikes me as delusional and failure to understand the bottom line reality of US-China commerce.



The fact is, US businesses are happily doing business in China. See Starbucks. See Apple, See Boeing. See GM which sells more cars in China than the US. See Tesla. See Ford. See the NBA. See McDonald's. See KFC. And the long list goes on. There are more hedge funds, more companies, that want to invest in the Chinese market because they are getting better returns in China than the US and they want access to the world's biggest consumer market.

It is strategists like Mr. Harris that are the reason why the US has a failed economic, global and China policy.

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Hi Tam,

Here's the thing, The American can't believe that in business, the Chinese are better than them. I'm not trying to flatter ourselves but from our history especially the overseas Chinese, we been subjected to restriction and prohibition and still come out on top. I cant' say my experience is the same for every Chinese , but when I was growing up my parents wanted me to own my business rather than to work for others and use their savings to start one.

China became a Second Superpower with a semi-friendly relationship with US and West.

China was plowing fields and stagnant while it was a subordinate relationship with Soviet Union.

Makes absolutely Zero Sense to join a formal anti-West alliance with Russia, it gives zero benefit to China, risks sucking China into Europe/Middle east conflicts, and Russia (as a pariah state) needs it FAR more than China.

Phead128 said:

China became a Second Superpower with a semi-friendly relationship with US and West.

China was plowing fields and stagnant while it was a subordinate relationship with Soviet Union.

Makes absolutely Zero Sense to join a formal anti-West alliance with Russia, it gives zero benefit to China, risks sucking China into Europe/Middle east conflicts, and Russia (as a pariah state) needs it FAR more than China.

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Hi Phead128,

Geography speaking it's China advantage to have Russia on its side, they're neighbors and they complement each other. It also provided China a buffer and a strategic depth. China is hemmed in with US bases surrounding her with the possibility of a naval blockage. their solution Combine with a naval build up is a rail route as part of the BRI, as an alternative trade route. Russia role is crucial for it to be successful. Geopolitics in the 21st century is all about market access, it's not about formal alliance its more about their Sphere of influence. Germany in Europe, Russia on her former soviet republic and China in its backyard Taiwan and SCS.

Damn never realize that the woke folks can be crazy as well

caudaceus said:

Damn never realize that the woke folks can be crazy as well

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1346222144947159045

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Guess you've never heard of the word either. There are crazies on both sides of the political spectrum but in America, it's just more extreme here because people tend to more extroverted, ideological, and very stubborn. So whether they're on the left or right they will let you know what their feelings are regardless of where you stand.

In4ser said:

Guess you've never heard of the word

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either. There are crazies on both sides of the political spectrum but in America, it's just more extreme here because people tend to more extroverted, ideological, and very stubborn. So whether they're on the left or right they will let you know what their feelings are regardless of where you stand.

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Hi In4ser,

Happy new year bro and good day,

How's thing in America, All those dooms day scenario hasn't pan out, American society is resilient but I think this winter will be a challenging/testing time for all of you. Trump seems not to care to govern anymore and the public is more divided than ever.

Need your opinion regarding the Republican Senator plan to contest Biden electoral college victory? IF allow to happen , it will set a precedent that harm the essence of US democracy?

Is there a civil war going on in the Republican party, that split may lead to a third party?

At the DNC, the progressive wing of the Democratic party seems to cave in? Electing Pelosi to be speaker without any descending vote seems like accepting the status quo? So its all bravado to win election vote?

AssassinsMace said:

The thing about Indians is they want to come across as neutral but it's really they don't want to be caught picking the wrong side.

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If that's the case, they aren't very good at it.

AssassinsMace said:

He didn't. He just repeated the nonsense that Biden will get allies together.

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That's about par for the course. A stupid, indoctrinated parrot who can only repeat slogans. Depending on your perspective, fate has either been very kind or very unkind in granting China such an incompetent and unworthy adversary.

ansy1968 said:

Hi In4ser,

Happy new year bro and good day,

How's thing in America, All those dooms day scenario hasn't pan out, American society is resilient but I think this winter will be a challenging/testing time for all of you. Trump seems not to care to govern anymore and the public is more divided than ever.

Need your opinion regarding the Republican Senator plan to contest Biden electoral college victory? IF allow to happen , it will set a precedent that harm the essence of US democracy?

Is there a civil war going on in the Republican party, that split may lead to a third party?

At the DNC, the progressive wing of the Democratic party seems to cave in? Electing Pelosi to be speaker without any descending vote seems like accepting the status quo? So its all bravado to win election vote?

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The election challenge is mostly lip service and nothing more. The Trump brand is still popular amongst many conservative voters, so many elected officials want the optics of standing with Trump against the 'Deep State.' However, I doubt any rational person seriously believes that Trump will remain in the office especially when the Military and Supreme Court are refusing to step in.

IMO fractures are likely to continue in both parties, especially if America continues its downward trajectory politically and economically. That anger and frustration will likely be harnessed by both sides and turned against one another and against outsiders but since dysfunction seems to be the norm, I don't think there will be any big visible changes until the next election cycle. I do think change is happening in the background, as Trump has challenged many traditional Republican platforms like Free Trade and Foreign Wars while many progressives on the Left are sick of Establishment Democrats and see them as part of the status quo voice that caused many of the nation's problems in the first place.

Nor do I think winning the election will necessarily be good for the Democrats even if Biden wins Georgia because he has to deal with a weaker House and a divided Senate as well as the triple threat of recession, pandemic, and bandaging the harm that Trump has inflicted. So at most, he will be Obama 2.0 but it's more likely that he will be weaker and more inept.

ZeEa5KPul said:

If that's the case, they aren't very good at it.

That's about par for the course. A stupid, indoctrinated parrot who can only repeat slogans. Depending on your perspective, fate has either been very kind or very unkind in granting China such an incompetent and unworthy adversary.

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The media never follows thru with hardball questions and politicians don't deviate from the talking points they're given. It's like both sides knows the drill.

Ah it's the "Fuck the EU" Nuland, she's responsible for Ukraine yes?