Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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Americans hate China because Western media have portrayed China as a devil for many years. They support trump because Trump insulted and attacked China.

But Trump's policies lead to a lot of damage to America. America's alliance with many countries has been affected by Trump's tax policy. Anti-American sentiment in Muslim countries because of Trump's overly blatant bias toward Israel. Tensions with Iran led to stalemate talks and then bloodshed. Too hastily to tax China causes many American farmers (agricultural exports) and commodity importers to suffer. The United States cannot find a cheaper source than China, and Americans pay more for the goods they buy. In the United States, racial conflicts and violence involving blacks, Muslims and immigrants have increased. Trump also failed in the Covid-19 pandemic, and as always, he started to blame everyone.

Trump's ambitions and ego are enormous, but his abilities are inadequate. Trump wants to completely solve problems related to China, North Korea, Iran, immigrants, Islam, economy ..... but it is beyond his ability. The end result is that trump did not do anything well, he only disappoints his supporters.
 
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What is your source for this? Or are you just basing that on the percentage of population who voted for Biden?

If that is the case, then it is a mistake. Just because slightly more half the voting national population voted for Biden doesn’t mean that percentage split will hold true across all demographics.

Indeed, anecdotally speaking, it seems more likely that more of the military voted for Trump than Biden given the fact that the American volunteer military is largely made up of right wing leaning individuals.



Actually it’s the other way around. It would be unwise in the extreme for a democratic state to deploy the national guard to gun down American civilians. Even if they are gun totting preppers in the middle of a coup.

You are right that the US military is loyal above all to the US constitution, and to deploy the national guard in direct combat against American civilians in a police action would be widely seen as an egregious violation of numerous US laws (like Posse comitatus) if not the constitution itself.

Indeed, the only realistic scenario where you might have regular active duty US troops deployed for combat operations on US soil would be in such a scenario where states first deployed their own national guard to fight US civilians on US soil.

If Trump was smarter, it would not be hard to see him trying to trick the Democrats into making exactly this move to provide him the pretext and justification he needs to order the US military into combat on US soil to eliminate his political enemies.

Short of such an outrage, if Trump ordered the US military to fight on American soil, the military will most likely declare the order unconstitutional and illegal and refuse to obey.

But if the democrats are seen to have crossed that most fundamental of red lines first, I think the US military will be much more ready and willing to follow Trump’s orders to fight on US soil, since they will see that as defending the constitution and fellow citizens against the democrats states who crossed the line first.

This might all seem far fetched, but we need to remember who we are dealing with here and what he is saying right now.

Yes, Trump does say a lot of stupid shit, but the scary thing about him is that he isn’t all bluster. He has done a lot of the things he said that people thought was crazy rants at first throughout his presidency. As such I think it would be unwise to dismiss his statements, claims and threats out of hand.

Remember Trump’s building-sizes ego and his near pathological obsession with winning and desperate fear and hate of loosing.

Given those psychological traits and his many personality flaws, it is entirely possible that he is in total denial and actually believes the BS he is saying about him winning and Biden ‘stealing’ the election.
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There's a Military Times poll showing that at least 42% of military personnel would vote for Biden (as of June 2020).

As for the whole National Guard thing, that is the point of the National Guard. To put down large scale armed rioting (which they've down before).
 
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The US military is loyal to the Constitution. Given that it seems at least a large plurality of active duty military voted for Biden, it would be very unwise of Trump and Barr to assume that the at least the National Guard won't be called out by state governors to go and gun down the preppers.
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That much lauded 'loyalty to the constitution' can also be turned against the United States; how many Trump supporters today were once Ron Paul Supporters who similar held a sacred view of the Constitution?

All it takes is for enough of them to be convinced that the rich elites in Washington (The Swamp) are preventing Trump from doing what he needs to do to restore the US back to its true Constitutional self (MAGA). A lot of MAGA are also former soldiers who are just as traumatised in the PTSD sense as say, Tom Cotton, who openly advocated troops in the streets on domestic soil during the George Floyd riots.
In fact, there is historical precedent; hitler's rise to power was also based on the same sentiment of restoring German greatness against the jewish bankers with a receptive audience in those who favoured militarism due to PTSD from WW1.
 
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hashtagpls said:
That much lauded 'loyalty to the constitution' can also be turned against the United States; how many Trump supporters today were once Ron Paul Supporters who similar held a sacred view of the Constitution?

All it takes is for enough of them to be convinced that the rich elites in Washington (The Swamp) are preventing Trump from doing what he needs to do to restore the US back to its true Constitutional self (MAGA). A lot of MAGA are also former soldiers who are just as traumatised in the PTSD sense as say, Tom Cotton, who openly advocated troops in the streets on domestic soil during the George Floyd riots.
In fact, there is historical precedent; hitler's rise to power was also based on the same sentiment of restoring German greatness against the jewish bankers with a receptive audience in those who favoured militarism due to PTSD from WW1.
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We are going to see an Operation Valkyrie in the US homeland very soon I feel
 
Nobonita Barua

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@caudaceus @Phead128 @cbl21 @crash8pilot @Xsizor


Guys. Anyone is better than this blabbing whale. Who just lies, cheat and stole. American exceptionalism at it's best.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1326180569009545217
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America couldn't overcome the biggest challenge it faced, which turned native America into Naughty America.

Speaking of challenge, how about a 200m race? Looking at the belly size of "free people" i am not sure what to make of CIA's fitness course.
 
Nobonita Barua

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In case any of you guys think Biden is going to be good and soft for China should watch this video.

As most of us old heads always said. The US parties may fight like cats and dogs within America. But there all agreed 100% with regards to China.

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What can i say?

World is gangster after all, and only one can be there ;)
 
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