Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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free_6ix9ine

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I don't believe everything in black and white like you do. So what if 90% of Americans of voters are anti-China. And the majority of Americans see Trump to blame for COVID-19 in the US. That's a contradiction by your logic. How can 90% of Americans be anti-China (because of COVID-19) when the majority blame Trump? Does that 90% mean they're for more action against China when the majority is also against Trump's trade war? It ain't as black and white like you think.

You know you can blame both Trump and China for covid right? It's not a binary thing. Plus Republicans only blame China. While Democrats blame both.
 

caudaceus

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No offense, but your arguments, this quoted message, and others remind me of folks in Reddit geopolitics subreddit. For them, nothing else matters in this world other than containing China. That includes looking at the other way all 'negative' actions of Turkey, India, Brazil, etc.
https://www.reddit.com/r/geopolitics/comments/j8p0rw
Exhibit A of my quoted statement. They are simping Trump to own China.
 

AssassinsMace

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You know you can blame both Trump and China for covid right? It's not a binary thing. Plus Republicans only blame China. While Democrats blame both.

According to your logic that's not possible. Hence why you think if 90% of Americans are anti-China, you think Biden would go further than Trump.
 

free_6ix9ine

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According to your logic that's not possible. Hence why you think if 90% of Americans are anti-China, you think Biden would go further than Trump.

I said Biden will be equally hawkish. Just more sophisticated in containing China. Instead of rage tweeting China flu at 2am in the morning. Biden will organize Japan and SK and India to contain China.
 
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South Korea is the least likely (virtually 0% chance) to join such an alliance. Hell, Germany is more likely to join an anti-China alliance than South Korea. Especially with the left-leaning pro-China Democratic Party with President Moon at the helm.
 

AssassinsMace

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I said Biden will be equally hawkish. Just more sophisticated in containing China. Instead of rage tweeting China flu at 2am in the morning. Biden will organize Japan and SK and India to contain China.


Oh you mean like Obama with the Pivot to Asia that failed? What's the difference when they would be facing the same consequences which why it failed, COVID-19 or not? Why didn't they ganged up and do this long ago?
 
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Pardon me If my comment is generalizing too much, I am very frustrated with r/geopolitics right now.
Oh yeah don't get me wrong, the comments are still infested with Trumpsters and Hindutva trolls. But lmao, I was expecting to get heavily downvoted, which I haven't yet at least.
 

emblem21

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Oh you mean like Obama with the Pivot to Asia that failed? What's the difference when they would be facing the same consequences which why it failed, COVID-19 or not? Why didn't they ganged up and do this long ago?
Whether they join and how much they put in depends on whether the USA can help there current Economies to recover from both covid and the current levels of unemployment going around. If Biden cannot solve the fact that the USA have over 60+ Million unemployed (this is real figures, not the parent numbers from the media), then what can he really offer this nations in terms of benefit other then dollars/treasuries which are not going to be of much value when they cannot be used for anything much sooner or later when the value decreases further.
I guess they underestimate the threat of China and then is why they didn’t commit fully back then, but now for them to commit when China is the nation that can help there recoveries more then the USA (consider the amount of trade deals going on in South America and Africa for example) isn’t going to be very productive since the USA market is propped up to the extreme with a bubble so massive that if it popped will screw there markets up a lot. Also note that the USA now has a reputation of pulling out of deals and doing what ever they want consequences be damned.
so even a Biden will is not an insurance that they will commit to a deal since they are know for targeting anyone that defies them. Biden has to win there trust back after what Trump did and just being anti China alone isn’t going to cut it this time. Especially when the USA is such an untrustworthy nation going forward
 
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