Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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Because Pompeo isn't Biden's "guy", and also the fact Biden's basically penciled in Susan Rice and Michele Flournoy for the respective positions of State and Defense if he were to win the election
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Regarding Flournoy, she seems quite hawkish at least according to these
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She seems at least want to discuss with China instead of unilaterally going gung-ho.

The issues however that she might be too hawkish for other countries possibly less influential under the justification of preventing stronger Chinese influence or something like that.
 
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Yeah but that's how geopolitics works. Your enemy's enemy is your friend. India or Brazil is not a big enough threat to the US. so Biden will turn a blind eye. US is hell bent on containing China.

US has been turning a blind eye on Saudi and Israel for years. A little more hypocrisy won't break the bank. Does any one really think US cares about democracy and human rights? No the only thing they care is power.
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And people freaked out when contemporary Chinese intellectuals are attracted to Carl Schmitt whose main idea is the distinction of enemy and friend in politic.
 
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China needs a big stick that the US is scared of. Right now China doesn't have any cards to play. I think China should use DCEP to undermine the US dollar and threaten the US financial system. While clandestinely providing military support to US adversaries like Iran. Especially anti access weapons like precision ballistic missiles and advanced UCAVs or even WMDs like biological weapons. Proliferation of WMDs to US adversaries will be a very big stick. If US wants cold War. Then game on.

Two can play this game. China just needs to recognize there is no going back. The US is hell bent on containing China. And instead of always playing defense. Need to play offense.

Instead of playing this trade war or tech war game. Which US has advantage. China needs to open up new fronts which China has the advantage. Such as proliferation of WMDs. The US has plenty of adversaries around the world for China to help.
 
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Iran for me is one of the biggest powder kegs right now. After JCPOA abandonment and other sanctions, I worry they gonna march to "Nuclear weapon above anything else" approach or at least try to adopt strategic ambiguity like Israel. Israeli won't accept a situation in which Iran got the bomb and might unilaterally attack. If that happens then we can expect a massive conflict in the middle east bigger than the Gulf war, since Iran I think has a better clandestine group compared to Iraq that can wreak havoc asymmetrically. While this situation is beneficial for the U.S. shale hydrocarbons, I do not think Biden will let them be because He as an establishment folk still has a goal for America as a city upon a hill. However then he might need to pivot from Asia again.
 
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Sorry to tell you but Trump has already gone as far as the US can go on his anti-China foreign policy without causing serious damage to the US. Getting other countries to go along with the US is only about spreading the suffering the US alone would face going alone. It's not a show of strength especially when allies are already behind the US under Trump. And some of you think Biden would go further when Trump has already stopped short of the point of no return? Chinese exports have already nearly doubled from last year under Trump. What happened to breaking dependency on China? Why has it nearly doubled? It's because in emergency situations like the weight of COVID-19, the US needs everything the cheapest as possible. They ain't getting that anywhere else in the world hence why it's coming from China. No other country especially the US can provide it. If China weren't providing it, the US would be in a far more dire situation. How does Biden change that? Going further than Trump makes it worse for the US not better.

Yes I see the reverse psychology being peddled in here notorious from those have been banned already. You don't want Biden because he's going to be soft on China as Trump charges so push him being worse for China in here. Why is it so important the anti-China faction in here to debate members that aren't anti-China as they are. It isn't going to change geopolitics in the world. It's a selfish satisfaction hence why don't believe them when they want China to surrender to the US and the West, they're not thinking about what's best for China. No they just want Chinese to be put in their place and humiliated whether they're a self-hating Chinese or other nationality.
 
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AssassinsMace said:
Sorry to tell you but Trump has already gone as far as the US can go on his anti-China foreign policy without causing serious damage to the US. Getting other countries to go along with the US is only about spreading the suffering the US alone would face going alone. It's not a show of strength especially when allies are already behind the US under Trump. And some of you think Biden would go further when Trump has already stopped short of the point of no return? Chinese exports have already nearly doubled from last year under Trump. What happened to breaking dependency on China? Why has it nearly doubled? It's because in emergency situations like the weight of COVID-19, the US needs everything the cheapest as possible. They ain't getting that anywhere else in the world hence why it's coming from China. No other country especially the US can provide it. If China weren't providing it, the US would be in a far more dire situation. How does Biden change that? Going further than Trump makes it worse for the US not better.

Yes I see the reverse psychology being peddled in here notorious from those have been banned already. You don't want Biden because he's going to be soft on China as Trump charges so push him being worse for China in here. Why is it so important the anti-China faction in here to debate members that aren't anti-China as they are. It isn't going to change geopolitics in the world. It's a selfish satisfaction hence why don't believe then when they want China to surrender to the US and the West, they're not thinking about what's best for China. No they just want Chinese to be put in their place and humiliated whether they're a self-hating Chinese or other nationality.
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Bro. Everyone knows Trump is a moron. I would rather face an anti china moron rather than someone like Biden who is guaranteed to be as hawkish as Trump, because 90% of voters are anti China. Its good politics to be hawkish on China. There are no reasons for Biden to de escalate in anyway.
 
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cbl21 said:
Ah, but his advisors are not. Say what you want about Pompeo, he's chaotic evil for sure, but he's smart about it.
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Look whatever damage Pompeo can do is more than equally balanced by how much damage Trump is doing to America.
 
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free_6ix9ine said:
Bro. Everyone knows Trump is a moron. I would rather face an anti china moron rather than someone like Biden who is guaranteed to be as hawkish as Trump, because 90% of voters are anti China. Its good politics to be hawkish on China. There are no reasons for Biden to de escalate in anyway.
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I don't believe everything in black and white like you do. So what if 90% of Americans of voters are anti-China. And the majority of Americans see Trump to blame for COVID-19 in the US. That's a contradiction by your logic. How can 90% of Americans be anti-China (because of COVID-19) when the majority blame Trump? Does that 90% mean they're for more action against China when the majority is also against Trump's trade war? It ain't as black and white like you think.
 
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I don't believe everything in black and white like you do. So what if 90% of Americans of voters are anti-China. And the majority of Americans see Trump to blame for COVID-19 in the US. That's a contradiction by your logic. How can 90% of Americans be anti-China (because of COVID-19) when the majority blame Trump? Does that 90% mean they're for more action against China when the majority is also against Trump's trade war? It ain't as black and white like you think.
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Consider for example that state department, DoJ along with republicans congressman have been spewing anti China statements and actions non-stop along with Fox News of course for a few months. That doesn't change the polling in Trump direction.
 
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