Is it pathetic/ineffectiveness or are they just puppets of the oligarchs and the national security establishment...
Something like a controlled opposition
Something like a controlled opposition
Biden is not in charge of foreign policy so he has very little influence on the direction of US China relations. The hawks are incharge and China should proceed as if Pompeo is in charge. Have not illusions .
I have just seen how he met Macron and told him that he was not aware of the French Australian sub deal.
I have just seen how he met Macron and told him that he was not aware of the French Australian sub deal.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Has Blinken sanctioned Chinese individual citizens? If not, then that tool should be used only in retaliation in kind. There's going to be a point where too many people get on the blacklist and it loses its effectiveness because it looks like China is telling US corporations who to hire and not about punishment. The blacklist is great because it's what the US is doing and it's US companies that are doing China's dirty work. The US already blocks Chinese companies from doing business in the US so Chinese on the US's blacklist could care less because Chinese companies aren't going to lose business in the US they never had in the first place. Plus it works on Republicans better since one of their goals in life is to get a corporate job after civil service because of how much money they can make using the connections they made while in government. Democrats can become board members of non-corporate activist/humanitarian organizations and get a nice payday from that.
In4ser
Junior Member
Sanctions shouldn't be overused as they have diminishing returns. That's something that the US is going to slowly realize.
Blinken put 5 million US dollar bounty on a Chinese citizen. He should get one put on his head as well and see how he likes it when he's no longer in the government.
The US is never going to realize diminishing returns. There is fundamental differences between sanctions by China and sanctions by the US. Sanctions by China are only enforced in China, by China so anyone can easily evade them by not visiting China and not directly doing business with China alone. In contrast, sanctions by the US are not only enforced within the US territories, but also in its countless vassals all around the world. Moreover, the US military and agency are actively enforcing its laws (by kidnapping people and seizing ships and airplanes etc.) on international waters/airspaces. Even Chinese companies in China are afraid of US sanctions and obey them. Only solution for China is expand its global physical/miltary presence to check the US activities.
Not doing business with China, or interacting with chinese products/services/advertising is going to become pretty tricky.
For example, could China have Pompeo fired from Fox by pulling adverts from Chinese companies? If you think no, then also consider the amount of Chinese shareholders in companies that advertise.
Maybe China doesn’t have enough ad spend yet to use this power, but it’s clearly increasing, they dominated Euro 2020 for example. Every advertisement hoarding was form Chinese products almost. 100” laser tv anyone?
It would be super interesting to know how much of Murdoch‘s revenue comes from China wholly or partially owned companies.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Chinese citizens on the US's blacklist don't need to travel to Western countries just like Americans don't need to go to China but since US companies want to do business in China more, that's where it's going to hurt. It was said that even the arch-conservative Koch brothers stayed clear of Pompeo. I bet it's a lot easier for the Chinese to hide their identity from the West.
Are Koch bros Neocons? I think they are only low tax simp.