Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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Gatekeeper

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@emblem21 bro its an eye opener for them foolishly believing that the democrats are different from Trump, they're one of the same coin...LOL

Ivanka will be an improvement on both Donald and Biden and will be superior to Harris by miles.

Given she was a Democrat until her father started his campaign I'd imagine they'd be delighted.

In what world is she going to be better than Sleepy Joe and Loser Trump and cackling Harris? I am not aware of Ivanka Trump’s supposed genius in business, policies, political acumen or even actual real life accomplishments other than marrying that robot looking boy man Kushner.

It doesn't matter who wins. To China and the rest of the world. It's all the same.

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AssassinsMace

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Wait and see what?

We can already see China is preparing itself for Trump policies to get even worse in 2024.
So we see technology decoupling, financial decoupling, a military buildup, etc

But if there is a peaceful environment for the next 15 years, China will continue growing.
By then, China will likely be immune to anything that the USA tries to do.
I read on the news that China's retaliating towards Australia because it wanted an international investigation on China over COVID-19. No, it was just the straw that broken the camel's back. Australia was following the anti-China road at least before Trump became President. So that means China waited until COVID-19 was enough of an insult for them to act. That's China's method of operation because they want the world to know they're justified in their actions before they act. And all that does is let the West spin something simple that China was the aggressor and it wasn't anything before. It's like how China doesn't counter the US until a year after like with Hong Kong because it doesn't want to look like China is acting out of emotion and is civilized. By the time Beijing counters, the world has forgotten what China is retaliating for and it looks like Chinese aggression out of nowhere and that's how they spin it. China can do worse like stop selling rare earths to the US and China can this time spin it's helping the US stop being dependent on China. That will ripple across most sectors of the US. The US doesn't have a right to Chinese produced rare earths so it's not a crime. That's what I'm talking about.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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What political acumen has cackling Harris demonstrated? Visiting the John McCain memorial in Ho ChiMinh city? It is easy to discount Ivanka as an airhead until you realize that she is one of the few people who advised Trump, back in 2018, to reach a trade deal with China when the Chinese government was willing to make limited concessions.
It's one thing to give advise to a father that's open and welcoming to your advice as the case with Ivanka because based on DJT past comments about his daughter, he clearly favors here and hold her in high regard.

But Ivanka IMHO doesn't have the political acumen a.k.a. retail politicking that her father have nor she has any common folk qualities that can relate to the common America fist crowd. When you see her speak, emote, and personality wise she comes across as en "elite" which she is in more ways than one. She's not crass or speaks in a populist manner/streak which is a prerequisite feature to have for any viable Republican candidate vying for the White House.

I have always thought that when Trump was still a Democrat that if the dude ever wanted to run for the presidency and win he has to run as a Republican. The way he acted and carried himself, his larger than lifer personality and the way he insults and cuts down his opponents were only going to ever work for the Republican party because the Democratic Party is just too P.C. and think of itself as above the class a.k.a the party of decensy. I mean it wasn't too long ago when Arnold the terminator at the height of his popularity during his first win as California's governor that there was considerable talk in the U.S. to amend the constitution in order for someone like Arnie to be able to run for the presidency. Wether that would have passed all the legal and political hurdles that entailed is another matter but to think that the super duper rah rah American political party entertained such a thought had to be taken seriously. The Democratic Party wouldn't have been able to table such "radical" idea especially at that stage and time pre-Obama years.

I have been a keen observer and follower of American politics since 2000 and my observations on your adopted country’s political circus have taught me that there are certain precepts the American political system follow. The Republicans can field candidates for important positions then nominate and run the crazies like Ronald Reagan (former actor, Union President, former Democrat) Pat Buchanan, Gary Buchanan, Pat (700 club) Robertson, Eugene Mccarthy, Curtis Lemay (Republican supporting genocidal maniac) Douglas MacArthur (another would be Caesar) Barry Goldwater etc...Their brand of nativist, racially charged politics couched behind patriotism and the flag have paved the way for someone like Trump to come to the scene and make those Uber Americans vision of their country a reality. I don't see the Republicans reverting back to the brand of compassionate conservative days that W. Bush ran on in 2000. From here on out it'll be punch em, suck em politics especially now that the Sino-U.S. relationship is in a tailspin.
 

Agnus

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If Trump was running by now, he would have attempted a ''complete blanket ban of all semiconductors'' to China and ended permanent normal trade relations status with China.
 
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antiterror13

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If Trump was running by now, he would have attempted a ''complete blanket ban of all semiconductors'' to China and ended permanent normal trade relations status with China.
I highly doubt Trump would do that :rolleyes: , it would hurt the US as much as China

If there was no cost to the US, it would have been done ages ago
 

Agnus

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Like Trump and his team by the end of their term, had become pathologically anti-China. It didn't matter what the cost as long as it hurt China.
 

Phead128

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I highly doubt Trump would do that :rolleyes: , it would hurt the US as much as China

If there was no cost to the US, it would have been done ages ago
Yea, but the latest report shows all the tariff costs is borne by American importers who pass to American consumers.

So US is fond of shooting itself in the foot. The key to China's rise is to assuage the bruised insecure ego to the extent US doesn't blow itself up to spite China. You know, cut the nose to spite the face. Managing US decline without US resorting to war is China's goal as it rises to become first among equals.
 

Gatekeeper

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What political acumen has cackling Harris demonstrated? Visiting the John McCain memorial in Ho ChiMinh city? It is easy to discount Ivanka as an airhead until you realize that she is one of the few people who advised Trump, back in 2018, to reach a trade deal with China when the Chinese government was willing to make limited concessions.

I think you might have to count Harris out. New York post just done a job on her. But like I said, you got to be some kind of stupid, if in the middle of a crisis, you decided it's ok to go on a foreign trip to gather support against an imaginary foe.


 

Bellum_Romanum

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I think you might have to count Harris out. New York post just done a job on her. But like I said, you got to be some kind of stupid, if in the middle of a crisis, you decided it's ok to go on a foreign trip to gather support against an imaginary foe.


She's super ambitious and she's going to use her black card to get to the top which unfortunately there will be sizeable enough democratic black voters and other virtue signaling people who mean well that will be fooled enough to vote for Cackling Harris. The lady for sure loves to hear herself talk. She's a lightweight and has no principles whatsoever. I would rather vote for Sen.Elizabeth Warren despite her being called a pocahontas by Teflon Trump lol
 
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