Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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ansy1968

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Exactly, i think China is planning to replicate us russian situation where both sides is deterred from fighting conventional wars due to both sides huge nuclear arsenal
@bajingan bro strategically speaking it can ride on the Russian while they increase their nuclear deterrent, the crucial year is 2025, before that the US would like to go to war while having an advantage what holding it back is the pandemic with the residual effect of domestic disturbance and economic depression. So the Chinese had the golden opportunity if they played their card right, this period (5 years) is the consolidation phase of their COMPREHENSIVE NATIONAL POWER which was fastened due to geopolitical events. The urgency is there and the whole nation approach is being implemented, I think what Blinken had done in the Anchorage meeting had trigger something BIG that really anger Xi and the restrained had been taken off. I'm never seen China this angry and its not acquiescing like they traditional did before.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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@bajingan bro strategically speaking it can ride on the Russian while they increase their nuclear deterrent, the crucial year is 2025, before that the US would like to go to war while having an advantage what holding it back is the pandemic with the residual effect of domestic disturbance and economic depression. So the Chinese had the golden opportunity if they played their card right, this period (5 years) is the consolidation phase of their COMPREHENSIVE NATIONAL POWER which was fastened due to geopolitical events. The urgency is there and the whole nation approach is being implemented, I think what Blinken had done in the Anchorage meeting had trigger something BIG that really anger Xi and the restrained had been taken off. I'm never seen China this angry and its not acquiescing like they traditional did before.
It doesn't need to utilize Russia's nuclear deterrent to buy time. The current nuclear arsenal of China already makes them hesitate. What China really needs to do is to make them not even think of going to war, as in whoever brings up using war to destroy China will be sent to a mental institution.
 

ansy1968

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It doesn't need to utilize Russia's nuclear deterrent to buy time. The current nuclear arsenal of China already makes them hesitate. What China really needs to do is to make them not even think of going to war, as in whoever brings up using war to destroy China will be sent to a mental institution.
@LawLeadsToPeace yup bro you're correct, but let see it from the Chinese POV, with the Russian onboard doesn't it give more credence of deterrent. Any increase from the Chinese side will tip the balance in their favor as the US and Russia balance themselves out. The reason of forming the QUAD is to increase its threat projection, instead the Grand Understanding between Russia and China overcome the whole US strategy putting them on a back foot. Allies will participate if their national interest coincide but with current situation it is not and the best strategic defense China had is to maintain its economy development, nurture its relationship with Russia, ASEAN, AFRICA , LATIN AMERICA, the middle east and certain part of EU and dammed the rest. She can lived without the 5eyes but can the 5eyes lived without China? I think that question is being debated and they can't find an answer cause hubris and pride stand in their way.
 

Phead128

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Why do so many Americans think China is 1 billion brainwashed idiots, when it's clear over the past 5 years, who the real brainwashed idiots are....Many think Trump is still the President, think COVID is a hoax, and think vaccines kill more people than COVID itself.
 

AssassinsMace

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After it came out that a Trump stooge in the US government lied charging that Chinese thermostats changed votes against Trump in the election, I don't see it being mentioned in at least the TV news now. They're still mentioning the conspiracy itself but not the part of Chinese thermostats. Why? Because they don't want it being official that people in the US government will lie about China. They like the part about being able to establish that Trump was a part of a law-breaking conspiracy within the government that took place where Trump wanted someone in the DOJ to just lie there was corruption during the election and then Trump himself will take care of the rest and someone in the government followed thru. They just don't like how that conspiracy involved lying about China and they don't want the public to know they do that.
 

AssassinsMace

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Why do so many Americans think China is 1 billion brainwashed idiots, when it's clear over the past 5 years, who the real brainwashed idiots are....Many think Trump is still the President, think COVID is a hoax, and think vaccines kill more people than COVID itself.
The reason why is because it supports how they think they can speak for the Chinese because Chinese are too dumb to think for themselves. They can act like a humanitarian while at the same time perpetuate their racist beliefs. That gives them an excuse why they want to interfere in China's internal affairs instead of admitting they just want to change China to serve their interests.
 

DarkStar

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The problem I see is that Anglo america being a white supremacist racist society is unable to view Chinese nor Asians as equal let alone human (look at the Hollywood dehumanising of Asians) which is why they require remedial classes in going to war in Asia (Korea, Vietnam etc)

The opium wars and colonialism convinced whites so much of the racial superiority myth that they keep trying to recreate opium wars again and again and again . Include Asian fetishisation and you get why Anglo america is so obsessed with control of Asia
 

emblem21

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The problem I see is that Anglo america being a white supremacist racist society is unable to view Chinese nor Asians as equal let alone human (look at the Hollywood dehumanising of Asians) which is why they require remedial classes in going to war in Asia (Korea, Vietnam etc)

The opium wars and colonialism convinced whites so much of the racial superiority myth that they keep trying to recreate opium wars again and again and again . Include Asian fetishisation and you get why Anglo america is so obsessed with control of Asia
Hence the only way things can change in the world for the better is if such a moment finally and will happen to them and force them either to learn from and try to make things right, or being exterminated down to the last man might be the final option available. While the USA has been on top for a long time, They cannot be there forever and lies have consequences
 

AssassinsMace

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The best revenge is to live well. Perfectly achievable without needing Western respect and acceptance. Yes there will be problems along the way but none of them will be solved with Western respect and acceptance. I want China to put up a Great Wall of Middle Fingers. It will piss-off all the right people and it's not a crime. The problem is there are still Chinese that value Western respect and acceptance. What does it get you? Is the West going hand over all their secrets and money because they trust you so much now in having it. No it's the same superficial value as when Japan and South Korea and every other lesser Asian country brags that the US likes them more than China. And are they the No.2 power in the world and having No.1 worry over their position? So what is it worth?
 

emblem21

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The best revenge is to live well. Perfectly achievable without needing Western respect and acceptance. Yes there will be problems along the way but none of them will be solved with Western respect and acceptance. I want China to put up a Great Wall of Middle Fingers. It will piss-off all the right people and it's not a crime. The problem is there are still Chinese that value Western respect and acceptance. What does it get you? Is the West going hand over all their secrets and money because they trust you so much now in having it. No it's the same superficial value as when Japan and South Korea and every other lesser Asian country brags that the US likes them more than China. And are they the No.2 power in the world and having No.1 worry over their position? So what is it worth?
I agree, its best not to plan some stupid life long terrorist plan to do something that is something out of a Hollywood film, its best to live well and do what is right. In the end, God will sort out the mess that is America, if America can redeem itself, fine but if God decides to punish America, also fine since as long as I can do something that will help the world become a better place, either path in the world is ok with me. If China ends up dominating and changing the world, then I can marvel and be proud of there achievements, but if China doesn't dominate and is quite content with living as equals in the new world, then I still can be happy at how far they come.
What I can say is the all actions have consequences and I believe that the western world is going to discover that not everything is going to go there way forever, but I have no intend of preaching to any government about their shortcomings, it is their own job to sort themselves out.
 
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