antiterror13
Brigadier
The water look clean and no rubbish .... I thought Western medias almost always portrait China as dirty place, full of pollution and the air was so dirty .. the reality is ... not even close
CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread
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The water look clean and no rubbish .... I thought Western medias almost always portrait China as dirty place, full of pollution and the air was so dirty .. the reality is ... not even close
I wonder what does that mean in terms of full displacement. Does the claim that it is slightly less than 80000t still holds?
Technically speaking, a full displacement of slightly below 80,000 tons is "between" the full displacement of 001A and Kitty Hawk but would be closer in displacement to the latter than the former. One way that someone may want to interpret it is to say it is meant to be an "average" between the displacement of 001a and Kitty Hawk but I think that would be overthinking it.
And in this case I think fzgfzy's consistent statements about 002 over the last year or so would take precedence, and he's been quite consistent about the full displacement being about 80,000 tons
During 2008 Olympic Games Chinese stops traffic and others to Beijing for decrease rate of air pollution.
And use much coal for produce electricity i have see and it is very polluting
To consider in proportion China have much more coal than oïl.
You think 2013 -19 for the first and 2017 -2023 ?
More sophisticated, big, cats can be reasonnably more long the STOBAR Shandong is much more simple to build...
The water look clean and no rubbish .... I thought Western medias almost always portrait China as dirty place, full of pollution and the air was so dirty .. the reality is ... not even close
Not to hard to keep an harbor open to the sea and swept twice daily by tides clean. Go a little bid inland, above the estuaries and where tides don't reach, and see how clean many bodies of where there are.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
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Have you even ever been to China? The cities and outskirts are pretty clean. City Streets are swept everyday by an army of council workers and city streets washed and swept by mechanical sweepers. The big problem is the water and air pollution not filthy rubbish clogged rivers and river mouths. By the way I live in Sydney, one of the most beautiful harbour city in the world but if you look hard enough you will find rubbish in the water
Blackstone
Brigadier
I go to China periodically, and while the big coastal cities are relatively clean and swept, the second-tier cities next to industrial hubs like Shanghai and Shenzhen are spotty at best, with some rather dirty and dusty towns here and there. Things have improved quite a bit since the early 2000's, but China's middle-class suburbs still have a ways to go. Not trying to be contrarian, just telling it like it is. The caveat is I spend most of my time in and around industrial zones, so things in smaller cities and towns might be different away from the economic zones.