antiterror13
Brigadier
and hopefully at that time (2030s) the US and China would work together and respect each other as an equal partner ... to maintain the world order and peace ... the world is big enough for 2 super powers peacefully
CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread
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and hopefully at that time (2030s) the US and China would work together and respect each other as an equal partner ... to maintain the world order and peace ... the world is big enough for 2 super powers peacefully
I wrote most of this in the FC-31 thread where it doesn't belong.
PLAN might decide to have a different distribution of aircraft over its flattops than USN. It might not deploy aircraft to the main carriers that might well be used from smaller carriers, for example UCAV. And also helicopters of course. Such carriers can also be used for initial deck landing training.
I can imagine China building a large carrier every three or four years, the period a carrier spends building in the dry dock and when a sufficient number of Type 002, 003 or whatever is reached to transfer 16 and 17 to the smaller carrier division.
The smaller carriers might be large enough to use radar aircraft. I'm thinking not of a radome like that used on the E-2 but of radar antennae distributed along the leading and trailing edges of the wings of a biplane possibly augmented by balanced beam antennae above and below the fuselage or even along the tips of the wings and the upper and lower edges of vertical tail planes as are used as outside verts on the E-2. Avoiding the drag of the radome and balanced beams must be a good thing. Adding wing fences between the tips of upper and lower wing would reduce the induced drag which is important flying at low speed and when flying high.
Having a large spacing between upper and lower antennae as well as a large horizontal extend would allow the use of much longer wave lengths.What would that do to the visibility of F-22 and F-35?
Using a smaller number of somewhat smaller large aircraft carriers will be less threatening to other countries which will correspond with China's promise not to interfere in the internal affairs of these countries. China might have as many smaller carriers as large ones or even more.
PLAN might decide to have a different distribution of aircraft over its flattops than USN. It might not deploy aircraft to the main carriers that might well be used from smaller carriers, for example UCAV. And also helicopters of course. Such carriers can also be used for initial deck landing training.
I can imagine China building a large carrier every three or four years, the period a carrier spends building in the dry dock and when a sufficient number of Type 002, 003 or whatever is reached to transfer 16 and 17 to the smaller carrier division.
The smaller carriers might be large enough to use radar aircraft. I'm thinking not of a radome like that used on the E-2 but of radar antennae distributed along the leading and trailing edges of the wings of a biplane possibly augmented by balanced beam antennae above and below the fuselage or even along the tips of the wings and the upper and lower edges of vertical tail planes as are used as outside verts on the E-2. Avoiding the drag of the radome and balanced beams must be a good thing. Adding wing fences between the tips of upper and lower wing would reduce the induced drag which is important flying at low speed and when flying high.
Having a large spacing between upper and lower antennae as well as a large horizontal extend would allow the use of much longer wave lengths.What would that do to the visibility of F-22 and F-35?
Using a smaller number of somewhat smaller large aircraft carriers will be less threatening to other countries which will correspond with China's promise not to interfere in the internal affairs of these countries. China might have as many smaller carriers as large ones or even more.
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so you think like this one?
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Actually there is no chimney on this model, nuclear propulsion ?
Intrepid
Major
No, like *this* one with two elevators on starboard, two catapults on the bow and one catapult on the waist.
An other *drawing*.
And there was an artist's impression several times in one of the carrier threads, but I couldn't find it again.
Your picture shows a supercarrier with four catapults and elevators on both sides. More likely a US-Navy carrier in Chinese colors (in other words -> fanboys wetdream).
Equation
Lieutenant General
We can only hope. The Steve Bannon types are already had their hands on every defensive and political shakers and movers in America to ever change their minds about the "threat" of a rising China to their precious "values".
Agree 100%
2 x STOBAR
2 x Convention CATOBAR
2x CVNs, with CVNs then replaving the first four as they reach retirement age.
kwaigonegin
Colonel
Quite likely .. I think it will be similar-ish to liaoning hull but no skip ramps, new redesigned smaller island and obviously cats. About 70-75k tons loaded.
Essentially like a Forrestal class but obviously with modern subsystems, modern layout and creature comforts.
You never know...I would be surprised if the CATOBAR carrier, with the CATs only has two elevators.
I believe they may have three. Depending on the size of the airwing and how high a tempo they want to work with, a 3rd elevator could help them out.
Time will tell.