CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

BoraTas

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Type 003 is a nice test bed for CATOBAR deck operation. It would be reasonable to guess they will build a 2nd hull of Type 003 before they start the construction of Type 004, which is nuclear powered. This will allow them to have 4 operational carriers before year 2030, while learning how to operate a CVN (Type 004).
I watch the PLA since 2010. During this period a lot of the even outrageous rumors were turned out to be true. Rumors about a second 003 are common. I think it will happen.
 

Blitzo

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Besides, we don't see the 2nd hull of the Type 003 at anywhere, no?

That said, we don't see it yet.

Personally I would not be surprised to see additional 003 pattern carriers to be built going forwards, before the CVN arrives -- and my own assessment is I don't expect work on the CVN to begin until late this decade.
 

Tyler

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Type 003 is a nice test bed for CATOBAR deck operation. It would be reasonable to guess they will build a 2nd hull of Type 003 before they start the construction of Type 004, which is nuclear powered. This will allow them to have 4 operational carriers before year 2030, while learning how to operate a CVN (Type 004).
The current fleet is under so much stress, as they are fulfilling their duties. The Taiwan situation needs to be resolved sooner than later.
Western hegemony only fear hard power. Hostile adversaries are intruding into territorial waters claiming freedom of navigation. It is always something that you hoped you had built more when you really needed them.
 

Kich

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The current fleet is under so much stress, as they are fulfilling their duties. The Taiwan situation needs to be resolved sooner than later.
Western hegemony only fear hard power. Hostile adversaries are intruding into territorial waters claiming freedom of navigation. It is always something that you hoped you had built more when you really needed them.
Don't digress into politics please. I don't want updates on 003 to be about Taiwan.
 

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"The development direction of small reactors is compactness, integration, modularization, and superior fuel cycle to make them more flexible and durable, easy to build, and reflect more attractive commercial prospects. Of course, the more important thing is to further improve its safety. The fourth-generation reactor technology represents this development direction." Zhang Yizhou said. It is understood that my country’s light-water small-scale reactor ACP100 is transformed from the military applications of the China Nuclear Power Research and Design Institute (such as nuclear submarines, etc.), and the National Energy Administration has allocated funds for it to carry out system verification. According to the plan of China National Nuclear Corporation, ACP100, which was established as a key scientific and technological project in June 2010, will take about 2.5 years to complete the design and key experimental research.

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"In the 1960s, China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC) set up the 719 Research Institute, also known as the Wuhan Second Ship Design Institute or CSIC 719, to develop applications for nuclear power technology in marine platforms. CSIC has become China’s biggest constructor of naval vessels, including nuclear submarines.
About a decade ago, China considered importing FNPP technology from Russia. In 2015, China’s National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) agreed with a CSIC 719 design plan to develop an indigenous offshore marine nuclear power platform. This plan included both floating nuclear power plants and seabed-sited nuclear power plants. Today, part of this plan is being realized in the FNPP programs at China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC) and China General Nuclear Power (CGN), two staunch competitors in China’s nuclear power business sector.
China included the development of CNNC’s 125 MWe ACP100S and CGN’s 65 MWe ACPR50S marine PWR plants in its 13th five-year plan for 2016 to 2020. The NDRC subsequently approved both marine reactor designs."


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"For more than a decade, CNNC has been developing SMR designs for both terrestrial and marine applications. Two of their small marine PWR designs seem destined for FNPP applications: the ACP25S and the larger ACP100S. Of the two, the design and development process for the ACP100S is further along than for the ACP25S.
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CNNC has been developing the compact 385 MWt/125 MWe ACP100 integrated PWR since 2010 and the preliminary design was completed in 2014. The similar marine version is the ACP100S.

In July 2016, CNCC formed a joint venture with China Shipbuilding State Corp. (CSSC) and announced plans to develop floating nuclear power plants and a nuclear powered icebreaker. In September 2017, China National Nuclear Power Co., Ltd. (CNNP) announced that Zhejiang Zheneng Electric Power Co., Ltd (ZZEC), Shanghai Guo Sheng Group (a large investment holding and wholly state-owned capital operating company), Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co., Ltd, and Shanghai Electric, plan to jointly fund the establishment of CNNC-Marine Nuclear Power Development Co., Ltd. (provisional name). FNNP shipbuilding was reported to have commenced in March 2018. The Qilu Evening News based in Jinan, Shandong, reported in November 2018 that the first CNNC floating nuclear power platform was expected to cost $2.1B (CNY14B). Since late 2018, there has been almost no news on the construction status of a CNNC FNPP."


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CNNC launches SMR project

23 July 2019

"China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC) on 18 July announced the launch of a project to construct its multi-purpose low-power reactor, Linglong One or ACP100 at Changjiang in Hainan province.
In March, China’s Nuclear World reported that first concrete for the project would be poured on 31 December. Construction is expected to take 65 months, for startup in May 2025, subject to relevant governmental approvals.
CNNC began development of the Linglong One small modular reactor project in 2010, and it was the first SMR project to pass an independent safety assessment by IAEA experts in 2016, thereby becoming a reference point for international efforts to develop small modular multi-purpose reactors.
The 125MWe multi-purpose reactor is designed for electricity production, heating, steam production or seawater desalination. The ACP100 integrated pressurised water reactor (PWR) design was completed in 2014. The major components of its primary coolant circuit are installed within the reactor pressure vessel."


So that is the land based version of the reactor. There have been no reports on the floating barge that I know of.

The ACP100S reactor has similar performance parameters to the RITM-400 reactor the Russians are developing which was proposed to be used in the "Storm" twin isle supercarrier proposal. It seems to be a unique Chinese designed reactor.
 
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Richard Santos

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Well politics aside, I think 003 is precisely about Taiwan, not to face off with an American carrier.
If it is mainly about taiwan, they would have just added drop tank capability to the Su-28 derived land based air fleet.

1 or 3 carriers can’t face off with the USN. but it can intimidate just about everyone else. And you want to face off with the USN, you got to start somewhere.
 
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