Obviously much more often than a carrier with a freeboard of six stories!
CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread
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Obviously much more often than a carrier with a freeboard of six stories!
Then what strategic value do you see in USN having all its CVNs? Bragging rights only?
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PLAN is quite different from the USN. The USN is an expeditionary force with lots of forwardly deployed ships far away from home port. Nuclear powered ships are extremely useful. This also explains the very large number of large support ships that USN operates vs PLAN. Until the days China decides to project its military power in the Indian and Atlantic Oceans which I just don't see any point, nuclear power is not that urgent other than childish bragging rights and/or a slavish mentality to follow others examples.
This discussion of nuclear versus conventional has been discussed ad nauseum.
Everyone needs to accept that nuclear carriers are simply better if you have the money, industry and technology to support it. Everyone knows that the type of carrier that the PLAN wants to settle with is a nuclear powered super carrier in the future -- the fact that they aren't going for one right now or that CV-18 is not one, means that circumstances are not sufficient for them to go for it yet.
The advantages of nuclear power for increasing aviation fuel volume, improving ability to move independently indefinitely which reduces the burden of a task force's replenishment needs, as well as the indefinite electrical power generation capability if the design is able to support it, are all highly useful traits for a high intensity conflict even if it was fought in the pacific.
The idea that nuclear power is only useful for long distance deployments is simply untrue.
If the PLAN seeks to be able to seriously contest air and sea control outside of the second island chain, a fleet of nuclear powered super carriers would significantly benefit that mission (alongside a host of other overall joint PLA capabilities of course).
I would also suspect that if CV-18 was nuclear powered, that many people here would be singing the praises of nuclear power and celebrating such an advancement and its material capability enhancements relative to conventionally powered carriers.
Everyone needs to accept that nuclear carriers are simply better if you have the money, industry and technology to support it. Everyone knows that the type of carrier that the PLAN wants to settle with is a nuclear powered super carrier in the future -- the fact that they aren't going for one right now or that CV-18 is not one, means that circumstances are not sufficient for them to go for it yet.
The advantages of nuclear power for increasing aviation fuel volume, improving ability to move independently indefinitely which reduces the burden of a task force's replenishment needs, as well as the indefinite electrical power generation capability if the design is able to support it, are all highly useful traits for a high intensity conflict even if it was fought in the pacific.
The idea that nuclear power is only useful for long distance deployments is simply untrue.
If the PLAN seeks to be able to seriously contest air and sea control outside of the second island chain, a fleet of nuclear powered super carriers would significantly benefit that mission (alongside a host of other overall joint PLA capabilities of course).
I would also suspect that if CV-18 was nuclear powered, that many people here would be singing the praises of nuclear power and celebrating such an advancement and its material capability enhancements relative to conventionally powered carriers.
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Just curios, does anyone know if the captain of 03 or even 02 and 01 for that matter is/was a former naval aviator or at least a fighter pilot.
In the USN, to my knowledge all COs are former NAs, but the also need to to be a SWOs and also go to extensive nuke school.
Of course in.the case if PLAN's carriers the 3rd requirement is not needed.
In the USN, to my knowledge all COs are former NAs, but the also need to to be a SWOs and also go to extensive nuke school.
Of course in.the case if PLAN's carriers the 3rd requirement is not needed.
More than significantly benefit, the mission would be impossible without them.
Impossible means "probability = 0" which technically is not true.
I prefer to avoid superlatives so that there are no unforced errors.
much simpler is to attract us navy in a south china sea and taiwan trap and destroy it with powerful combined land (asbm hypersonic missiles, bombers and also fighters and drones from artificial islands) and sea (carriers submarines ddg drones etc) power. The trap is set.