CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

AndrewS

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China's military progress has been great and historic. But I think China has only scratched the surface of its full military potential. They are just spending 1.5% of GDP on the military right now. Its lower than most EU countries. I believe when China is truly serious about its military expansion, they will spend 4-5% of GDP on military in peace time. That means atleast 2-3 times bigger quantity of hardware produced.

Let's not even forget what China will be able to do in wartime production levels. China will make US production in WW2 look like Child's play in a future WW3.

There is no need to go anywhere near 4% of China's GDP for military spending, but yes, Chinese wartime production levels would likely look extraordinary, assuming production was uninterrupted.

My guestimate is that mass-produced Chinese nuclear carriers with an airwing would be in the ballpark of $10 Bn. And let's say they commission 1 per year, as a peacetime cold-war scenario.

For another $10 Bn, they could get 5?? Type-095 SSNs every year.

After 10 years, that's 10 nuclear supercarriers plus 50 SSNs.

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That's an annual procurement cost of $20 Bn, or about 0.2% of China's GDP.
Of course, you have operating costs as well, but the final figure might only be 0.4%? of GDP after 10 years.

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End of discussion, as per Deino
 

taxiya

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We already know that the angle of ski jump of CV-17 is different from CV-16. It is new to me that the video says that the shape (形线) of the whole ship (CV-17) is also different. It took one and half year to design. So IMO CV-17 is a new ship from CV-16 instead of improvement/upgrade/variant, similar to the relationship between Nimitz and Ford.
 
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Gloire_bb

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We already know that the angle of ski jump of CV-17 is different from CV-16. It is new to me that the video says that the shape (形线) of the whole ship (CV-17) is also different. It took one and half year to design. So IMO CV-17 is a new ship from CV-16 instead of improvement/upgrade/variant, similar to the relationship between Nimitz and Ford.
Well, of course it is, given the extreme difference in size alone. The same way that 1143.5 (i.e. 001/001A) is quite different from 1143.4(Vikramaditya), despite their common 1143 number.

They are still probably closely related (hence all the 1143.9 jokes) though, but it's crystal clear that it's a new design. It can't be anything else.
 

by78

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