CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

[Intrepid]

My last post to Nimitz/Ford-Class weapon elevators:

The blue circles are weapon elevators, too. And then Ford has the same arrangement than Nimitz with one magazine in front of the machinery space and one in between the forward and aft reactor/boiler/engine-rooms. The oil-fired supercarriers had magazines fore and aft of the machinery spaces.

Nimitz has nearly 3000 tons of aviation ordnance, that is much more than any other carrier type. Forrestal had 1650 tons and Kitty Hawk/Enterprise/America/Kennedy had 1800 tons.

May be, a moderator moves the off-topic-postings about weapon elevators and magazines to an other thread?

 

[Anlsvrthng]

My last post to Nimitz/Ford-Class weapon elevators:
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The blue circles are weapon elevators, too. And then Ford has the same arrangement than Nimitz with one magazine in front of the machinery space and one in between the forward and aft reactor/boiler/engine-rooms. The oil-fired supercarriers had magazines fore and aft of the machinery spaces.

Nimitz has nearly 3000 tons of aviation ordnance, that is much more than any other carrier type. Forrestal had 1650 tons and Kitty Hawk/Enterprise/America/Kennedy had 1800 tons.

May be, a moderator moves the off-topic-postings about weapon elevators and magazines to an other thread?

Why?You just gave the upper limit of the Type001A ordnance load =1650 tons.

 

[Iron Man]

It didn't move. The distance to the runway was reduced in front of and behind the arresting wire system. American style.

I expect Liaoning to get the same markings.

Look closer. The line at the wires was moved further out from (rather than the rest of the line moved closer to) the landing strip.

That make practically useless the weapon storage on the place of Granits.

In high sortie mode as soon as they need to use the weapons stored there ( as they run out from the ordnance stored in no2 and no3) they have to slow the sortie speed to third or less.

I read that that space was used for crew comfort purposes rather than for increased ordinance storage.

 

[Intrepid]

Look closer. The line at the wires was moved further out from (rather than the rest of the line moved closer to) the landing strip.

We will wait until we have better pictures to measure the distance. And I think, You have to look closer .

 

[Iron Man]

We will wait until we have better pictures to measure the distance. And I think, You have to look closer .

Actually I think it's pretty obvious. You can wait for better pictures if you want, though.

 

[Anlsvrthng]

I read that that space was used for crew comfort purposes rather than for increased ordinance storage.

Wiki say that the Type 001A has bigger hangar deck because of the removal of launchers.
It can not be, it can be ordnance storage , or crew accommodation or whatever.

 

[Intrepid]

Wiki say that the Type 001A has bigger hangar deck because of the removal of launchers.

Wiki is wrong!

 

[Hendrik_2000]

Wiki is wrong!

The can add space in the stern I don't see any problem with that

 

[jon88]

Wiki is wrong!

As I remembered, the launchers on Lioaning was also removed. I saw that a few years back on Jeff's post. Subsequently Jeff accidentally lost an entire thread and that pic was lost. I remembered it was a massive block of concrete lifted from the Lioaning near the curvature of the takeoff ramp. I remembered because I couldn't believe how big it was.

Yes wiki is wrong to say that 001A is bigger because of launcher removal, implying that Lioaning didn't remove her launchers.

 

[Intrepid]

Yes wiki is wrong to say that 001A is bigger because of launcher removal, implying that Lioaning didn't remove her launchers.

The hangar of Kuznetsov, Liaoning and 002 have all the same size. Between the launchers and the hangar are the weapon elevators still visible on all three carriers.