CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

[bd popeye]

In newer carriers the assembly is done on hangar deck level or even in the hangar.

Not with the USN. All Nimitz class have a dedicated magazine on the 4th deck. 2 decks below the mess decks for weapons assembly. This changed when the USN CVN dropped the nuclear strike mission. Magazines once dedicated to nuclear weapons are now used for weapons assembly.

In older carriers the assembly level is one deck below the hangar deck, may be the crews mess deck in other function.

True with the USN.

 

[Jura The idiot]

apparently they don't call them подъемники оружия (which is what I would've said LOL but that "knowledge" only prolonged the search),
but элеваторы боезапаса (end up at #19 below)

 

[Intrepid]

Ford Class has a new kind of elevators. Some of them not going vertical but diagonally down.

Something to read:

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[Intrepid]

And in this

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you can see Ford Classs elevators ending at hangar deck level.

 

[bd popeye]

Ford Class has a new kind of elevators. Some of them not going vertical but diagonally down.

Nothing new under the sun. Aboard USS John F Kennedy when I was aboard in '72 & '73 the forward upper stage bomb elevator ran from the second deck to the flight deck between the forward cats. That thing was at a slight angle...nothing like the Ford class. Just offset a bit. It seldom if ever operated properly.

 

[Intrepid]

There are 11 elevators on the Ford Class, four of them reaching to the flight deck. Three are in a position, from where they have to go down in a 45° angle I think. And the fourth one has a realy funny position (my opinion, look at the blue circle):

 

[Intrepid]

Three elevators deep in the hull:

 

[Anlsvrthng]

As it looks like the Kuznetsov has direct elevator from the storage/assembly.

Three elevators deep in the hull:
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As it shows it the weapon magazine is under the waterline, in the front, way away from the critical engineering sections.
As I see there should be two magazine.

So I presume the Kuz followed similar way, burring deep the weapon magazines, to the front of the ship.

I think they had restricted option for the elevators, and they opted for the subotimal solution.

but the kuz/Liaoning supposed to be more of a test /learn project than a combat capable ship for the CCCP/PCR I think.

 

[Anlsvrthng]

There are 11 elevators on the Ford Class, four of them reaching to the flight deck. Three are in a position, from where they have to go down in a 45° angle I think. And the fourth one has a realy funny position (my opinion, look at the blue circle):
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By the linked article they opted for electromagnetic elevators : D
Complete fail, they had no clue what they want to do.

I remember, I worked for a company who opted for linear motor moving system , for few machine.
It was extremely bad, the downtime of them was so bad the company was forced to scrap them after few years of operation ,and swap them for normal, ball screw + prism type bed .
Practically all geometric issue/contamination caused stoppage, and there was the complex electronics.
IT was small and compact, but very nightmare to keep going

And that was a simple, few meters long linear motor for light duty , not dozens meter long , complex elevator system for a warship : O.
They will have to fork out big pile of money for few more years to make it works : )

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[Jura The idiot]

now noticed the tweet

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Interesting to see J-15's mockup aboard 002 CV featuring wingtip ECM pods to simulate the dimension of J-15 EW a/c, which suggests J-15 EW a/c will take a role in 002 CV's air wing.