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Hendrik_2000

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Oh right, so J-20 (and I'm sure J-31) is more-than-just-stealth but F-22 and F-35 are just-stealth, which is why your flippant dismissal of stealth fighters applies only to F-22 and F-35 but definitely not to J-20 and J-31. Got it. :rolleyes:

Stealth by itself is no PANACEA got it :p and Yeah it has short shelve life just like your yogurt .Sooner or latter I bet sooner someone will find an antidote, Anyone who believe that 20 ton plane can disappear from sight must be believing in dream world. come to think of it somebody did Hura:eek:

China Claims Its New Anti-Stealth Radars Can Detect the F-22

If true, that's bad news.

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China showed off what it claims is an anti-stealth radar system at this month's Zhuhai Air Show. If true, the radar threatens to undo hundreds of billions in U.S. spending on stealth warplanes.
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China showed off two anti-stealth radars at Zhuhai. The first, the JY-27A 3-D long-range surveillance/guidance radar, is a Very High Frequency (VHF) radar that,
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, is the Chinese military's first active-phased array radar. VHF radars, with their longer wavelengths, are more likely to detect stealth aircraft, and it's been known that China has been working on them for some time now.

Phased-array radars, unlike traditional "dish" radars, are flat panels composed of hundreds of smaller transmit/receive panels. While traditional radars are like turning on a flashlight in a dark room—everyone can see where the beam of light is coming from—phased array radars are more difficult to detect. They're also less susceptible to jamming.

The article states "There are unverified claims that the radar can pick up hostile stealth fighters at ranges of up to 500km (310 miles.)" If so, that would out-stick American stealth aircraft, revealing them before they could get into a fight.

Another anti-stealth radar on display at Zhuhai was the JY-26 Skywatcher-U. This radar works in a broader bandwidth, in VHF and Ultra-High Frequency bands. According to Shephard Media, it has a range of 310 miles and can track up to 500 targets at once. Intriguingly, it claims that while under development in Shandong, China it was able to track American F-22 Raptors flying over South Korea.
 

anzha

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Stealth by itself is no PANACEA got it :p and Yeah it has short shelve life just like your yogurt .Sooner or latter I bet sooner someone will find an antidote, Anyone who believe that 20 ton plane can disappear from sight must be believing in dream world. come to think of it somebody did Hura:eek:

There have been years, even decades of folks claiming they have a technology that defeats stealth. The Russians especially, but now the Chinese. Yet, the Chinese, at least (and the Russians claim to be), are building stealth aircraft.

As for optical stealth. That's plausible. Still has kinks though. ;)
 

Hendrik_2000

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There have been years, even decades of folks claiming they have a technology that defeats stealth. The Russians especially, but now the Chinese. Yet, the Chinese, at least (and the Russians claim to be), are building stealth aircraft.

As for optical stealth. That's plausible. Still has kinks though. ;)

It is an age old question of Shield vs arrow In the history of weapon development eventually someone will find an anti dote for supposedly wunder weapon. Nothing stand still in this world. I think you are new here There is whole thread dedicated to this question I posted a lot of article about new radar development. From quantum radar to OVH radar etc

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/chinese-radar-developments-klj-series-and-others.t6755/page-19
 

anzha

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It is an age old question of Shield vs arrow In the history of weapon development eventually someone will find an anti dote for supposedly wunder weapon.

I am new here, but not knew to the discussion. I've been participating in this sort of discussion for 25 years now and even helped...shape it to some extent. ;)
 

DaTang cavalry

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I think this guy 从小就黑 made a prank, he posted some pictures looks like 002 CV come back DL , some media that believed the carrier ended the sea trial , the media Include the Global Times 环球时报 , but the guy 从小就黑 argued that he did not say anything, he just uploaded the pictures.
This is Sina .com reprint the article from Global Times 环球时报 :

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Hendrik_2000

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:confused: Fake news? Who knew!

What about the statement from the Ministry of Defence about the sea trials? was that "fake news"? So are there any REAL any updates?

And why should it be fake? It is official PLA announcement giving in front of the press. Or are you disappointed because there is no ambiguity as to the success of trial?
CV17 does not exactly limp into the harbor so as to need tow boat
Meanwhile training continue on the ground facility via Lkj86
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