CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

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asif iqbal

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So why didn’t China address this bow bulb issue ? More importantly why not improved on CV-17?

A recon aircraft can pick this off miles away

In WWII Mid way was result of a Japanese vessel trailing behind the carrier formation first spotted by trail, then the destroyer which lead them to the 4 carriers
 
So why didn’t China address this bow bulb issue ? More importantly why not improved on CV-17?

A recon aircraft can pick this off miles away

In WWII Mid way was result of a Japanese vessel trailing behind the carrier formation first spotted by trail, then the destroyer which lead them to the 4 carriers
I think today radar from recon aircraft will pick up an aircraft carrier from dozens or possibly even hundreds of miles away regardless of a ships wake.
 

bd popeye

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So why didn’t China address this bow bulb issue ? More importantly why not improved on CV-17?

A recon aircraft can pick this off miles away

In WWII Midway was result of a Japanese vessel trailing behind the carrier formation first spotted by trail, then the destroyer which lead them to the 4 carriers

All ships, no matter the size, put out a wake. Particularly a ship the size of an aircraft carrier.

Note Gerald R Ford starboard side wake. She has a bulbous bow sonar dome ...

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (Aug. 14, 2017) The aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) pulls alongside the dry cargo and ammunition ship USNS William McLean (T-AKE 12) during a practice underway replenishment. Gerald R. Ford is underway conducting test and evaluation operations. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Mathew R. Fairchild/Released)
 

Interstellar

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It is the shape of the hull. Same hull shape as Laoning. The bulb is not large enough to draw the bow wave down and break it up.
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The whole point of a bow bulb, besides sonar, is to break up the bow wave, which causes the most resistance of all the hull waves. The bow bulb must be large and long enough to pull down the bow water and break up the wave, regardless of how the ship is loaded.

I didn't want to go off topic but CV-17 Shandong's bow wave has to be explained. It is a great vessel and with each new carrier, especially Chinese designed hulls, we can expect vast improvement in the hull shape.

The hull of Type 002 was redesigned. The new ship line is the one that stood out from other 29 designs and passed the ship model testing.
 

asif iqbal

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Cool must say it was a interesting conversation something I have never noticed before, that’s why I love SDF always learning
 

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Sea trials of China's second aircraft carrier safe, smooth: spokesperson
Source: Xinhua| 2018-08-30 21:36:27|Editor: Yamei
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BEIJING, Aug. 30 (Xinhua) -- Sea trials of China's second aircraft carrier have been conducted safely and smoothly and achieved the anticipated goals, China's Ministry of National Defense said Thursday.

Wu Qian, spokesperson for the ministry, said at a regular press conference that the aircraft carrier left a dock at Dalian Shipyard in northeast China's Liaoning Province in recent days for the sea trials to test its equipment platform and facilities.

Wu said the operation was a normal arrangement in the construction plan of the carrier and its construction is being carried forward steadily in accordance with the plan.
 
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