CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

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Mirabo

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President Xi was holding a summit with Kim Jong-Un in Dalian, and is also presumably there to see the new carrier off on her first sea trial.

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Not the best journalism by the best journalist, but it tells us all we need to know.

EDIT: It would appear that Xi has already left Dalian and will not be present for the carrier's imminent sea trial.
 
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Well according to this archived site:

"On board the Admiral Kuznetsov the following aircraft are based: 17 aircraft as follows: 12 Sukhoi Su-33s, 5 Sukhoi Su-25 UTG/UBP, as well as 24 helicopters: 4 Kamov Ka-27LD32, 18 Kamov Ka-27PLO and 2 Kamov Ka-27S."

Adds to a total of 41 total of both fixed and rotary wing. Obvious different aircraft types and numbers on the 001.

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bd popeye

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Jura said:
didn't you read Today at 8:25 AM
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she carried 50 in October of 2015
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50? is that all? Nowadays USN CVN only carry about 70 or less aircraft because of reduced size air wings...However that was not always true;

Aircraft Carriers III posted December 17th 2015...

As I've posted some years in this forum ago while aboard America in 1981 we had 89 or so aircraft assigned to CVW-11. That is a lot of aircraft and America handled them well.

While onboard CV-66 in '81 we had the following airwing onboard;
24 Tomcats
24 A-7E Corsairs
15 A-6E Intruders
10 S-3A Vikings
6 SH-60 Seahawks
4 E/A-6B Prowlers
4 E-2 Hawkeyes
2 C-2 Greyhounds(Logistics)
= 89 aircraft
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Plus the occasional E/A-3 Skywarrior....
 
plawolf

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Wasn’t the Russian carrier set squib largely to do with a concerted western effort to deny the Kuz the ability to replenish at port? The Russians didn’t have an fueller or replenish ship with the fleet.

They only had a tug as support, which couldn’t carry much fuel to start with, which was further eaten into by the long distance it was forced to sail to get docking rights.

Without a reliable refuelling option, the Kuz couldn’t afford to spend the fuel doing the kinds of sprints needed to help their aircraft take off with meaningful payloads, so they just kinda gave up and deployed the carrier birds to operate from land bases.

That was more an issue with the imbalance within the Russian fleet as opposed any inherent limitation on the ship itself. Although not having the funding to train properly may have also contributed to its poor showing.
 
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Guys ... again, could we please leave out any comparisons to the Russian Kuznetsov, since this could be done in the Liaoning thread, the Kuznetsov is in regard to a comparison of the Liaoning vs the Type 002 at Dalian very much irrelevant ... and even more is it irrelevant to mention how BIG a US air wing is.

Come on ... just a little bit of discipline to stay on topic.
 
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