CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

[Intrepid]

I would think the first few take off's by a new pilot will be from the aft position but all other use of that position will be by heavily loaded aircraft ...

... and when wind isn't sufficient.

 

[danielchin]

after "Training-Job" Liaoning + CV 001A will protect chinese SSN bases; the J-15 is only air superiority, no way for air to ground attack

but I thought It can also carry KD-88 ASM, YJ-83K AShM and YJ-91 ARM?

 

[Deino]

but I thought It can also carry KD-88 ASM, YJ-83K AShM and YJ-91 ARM?

Indeed, at least the YJ-83K has been seen during the early trials with the prototypes and I think there's no reason, that the KD-88 could not be carried too ... the same for the YJ-91.

The question however remains: is it already operational and we simply have not seen them or are they not.

 

[Iron Man]

Has the Su-33/J-15 ever been observed with a centerline fuel tank?

 

[Deino]

Has the Su-33/J-15 ever been observed with a centerline fuel tank?

No ... only with an IFR-pod !

 

[kriss]

Quite frankly I would welcome it as long as the Russians did not try to force things against other parties allied with the US or Turkey. If all of us were committed however together against ISIS, how would it be to see four carrier:

US Nimitz class
French CDG
Russian Kuznetsov
Chinese Liaoning

...all unitedly attacking the ISIS animals jointly?

Quite unlikely. Though ISIS is a pain in everyone's ass, there is still a civil war going on and US/europe and russia/china are supporting different sides.

 

[delft]

... and when wind isn't sufficient.

When there is no wind and the carrier goes at a modest 25 kts in whatever direction there is a 25 kts wind over deck.

 

[Intrepid]

When there is no wind and the carrier goes at a modest 25 kts in whatever direction there is a 25 kts wind over deck.

... and with 25 kts wind there is a 50 kts wind over deck and that is what is needed.



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However, when dawn arrived there was not enough wind for the heavy Skyhawks to take off so the mission was cancelled and Admiral Lombardo turned back to await a better opportunity.

 

[delft]

... and with 25 kts wind there is a 50 kts wind over deck and that is what is needed.



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It was the carrier Veinticinco de Mayo, formerly the Dutch Karel Doorman, a ship of less than 20 000 t and with a length of 192 m. that was unable to reach its design speed of 24 kts, that didn't dare launch its A-4's because it needed the help of the wind. Remember the feeble cat of the poor ship.
Adm. K needs 7 kts WOD to launch Su-33's at MTOW, so it can launch while at anchor if the wind exceeds 7 kts. She much have been designed to launch Yak-44 radar aircraft under most circumstances.

 

[Intrepid]

Adm. K needs 7 kts WOD to launch Su-33's at MTOW

Forward or aft launch point?

And if that is not only theory but daily practice, why the Chinese are planing for a CATOBAR-carrier?