CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

[Jeff Head]

Do Liaoning fits into the locks of the Panama Canal? If yes, it will travell into the Gulf of Mexico.

I believe that the Liaoning would certainly fit in the Pamal Canal. and them sailing into the Gulf of Mexico causes me no concern whatsoever...or the Caribbean, or the Baring Sea. China has FON rights like all nations do...just as long as they do recognize actual territorial limits.

 

[advill]

China will not restrict FON by commercial vessels in the South China Sea, as it is committed to free trade and globalisation. China appears to be objecting to any aggressive or suspicious intent by the USN ships carrying out constant patrols in Chinese claimed territorial waters in the area. There is really no point now to debate the legal vs historical ownership rights of these waters, as the Chinese have already turned those reefs into islands. They have military assets on these reclaimed islands and expected to defend vigorously against any adversary. What is baffling, if I remember correctly, is that the US in the past declared that it was not interfering in the South China Sea disputes. Presently, Malaysia, Philippines and Brunei the 3 of the 5 claimants have shown willingness to negotiate with China for joint venture projects etc., and the Chinese appear to be reciprocating. The whole region would definitely have serious concerns if the US encourages countries to form joint maritime patrols to contain/irritate China in those waters. Mr Tillerston, the soon to be Secretary of State declared that the US will not allow the Chinese PLA-N to get to their islands in the South China Sea - this is a very serious and antagonistic comment. On hindsight It appears unlike previous US Administration, the newly inaugurated President Trump intends to have a trade war with China, and (God Forbid) perhaps a shooting war? We in Asia and the world waits for further moves by the new Trump Administration, BUT would definitely not tolerate a Big Bully. Bullying and hustling of business competitors by a biz tycoon is so different from dealing with nations diplomatically. The sooner Trump and his Administration realises this, the better it is for everyone who believes in Peaceful resolutions.

 

[FORBIN]

I believe that the Liaoning would certainly fit in the Pamal Canal. and them sailing into the Gulf of Mexico causes me no concern whatsoever...or the Caribbean, or the Baring Sea. China has FON rights like all nations do...just as long as they do recognize actual territorial limits.

With hold locks no Beam 32.31 m don't pass more big can pass Wasp class 31.8 m and America class 32 m but very just !

Iowa BB have passed and Japanese build Yamato considering these limit and want also destroy the locks with big submarines I-400 class and Seaplanes they have a plan for it but not realised an Attack with I-400 and one onther type but " less big " Type AM submarine

Beam: 32.31

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Kuznetsov class do 33.5 m max 72 m with flight deck

With new locks yes he pass largely 49 m even a Nimitz to 40.8 m in this case soon US CVN pass.

 

[FORBIN]

I correct surely not Liaoning and US passes the hull fit but not angled flight deck with infrastructures on the sides

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Old docks : 294 x 32.31 x 12 m
New docks : 366 x 49 x 15,2 m

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Kuznetsov class : 305 x 33,5 - 72 m x 10.5 m
Nimitz : 333 x 40,8 - 77 x 11,3 m
Ford : 337 x 41 - 78 x 12 m

 

[Franklin]

Carrier based AEW plane spotted in China.

The new model of Y-7J (03) carrier-capable tactical airborne early warning (AEW) aircraft was spotted in Wuhan, Hubei province, China.

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The prototype of the new aircraft was established on the model aircraft carrier in Wuhan Province. The model aircraft carrier is estimated at being 300 meters (984 feet) long and 80 meters (262 feet) wide. The model is complete with a helicopter landing pad and a model of a carrier-borne aircraft.

The Y-7J looks like a hybrid of soviet Antonov An-26 transport aircraft and American E-2 Hawkeye carrier-capable AEW aircraft. The front half of Y-7J is based on the Xian Y-7, the Chinese version of the famous Antonov An-26; the tail section is much similar to the Northrop Grumman C-2 and, above all, the E-2 Hawkeye that is the U.S. AEW platform serving on all the American supercarrier.

The length of the new aircraft will be about 21 meters, with a wingspan of 27 meters will be. Plane Y-7J (03) can reach a maximum flight speed of 700 km / h, and the range will be about 2300 km.

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[Blackstone]

What are the two pods under the elevators? Small jet engines or rocket pod housings to assist in taking off from CV-16 and CV-17?

 

[MwRYum]

Carrier based AEW plane spotted in China.

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That's most perplexing actually, because firstly this defies all previous opinion that they have yet get a proper carrier-borne AWACS platform, and this setup is just for concept-proving purpose; next the mockup don't mimic the wing folding feature that'd be a requirement; thirdly how'd adding a pair of jet engines (fixed? JATO/RATO kit?) would make launch without catapult assist possible? Just think about the payload capacity those two engines would take away...

But...if they've actually decided on how big the AWACS will be, and given the mockup facility is to concept-proving stuff that'll find its way onto future ships, it could be merely a data-gathering study.

 

[FORBIN]

Initial state an old rusty bucket

 

[Deino]

Already posted last week !

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/cv...iews-and-operations.t8030/page-79#post-435924

 

[damitch300]

I wish there where clear images of the insides when she was found by the chinese.
And there are only a few images of her in ukraine
If only... haha