CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

[Team Blue]

Okay but can we address how that looks like a giant googly face?

 

[FireyCross]

Am I right that this is only the second time the Liaoning as been outside of the first island chain?

 

[Temstar]

Am I right that this is only the second time the Liaoning as been outside of the first island chain?

By my count yes, the other occasion was last year when Liaoning was for a time the ONLY active carrier in the pacific due to all the USN carriers being disabled by the pandemic.

 

[Sczepan]

according to motif / CMF could be one of two subs, shadowing Liaoning

 

[lcloo]

What makes a submarine to surface near Liaoning Group?
(1) to demostrat to PLAN that it had successfully trailing Liaoning group without being detected, or
(2) it had been detected and was forced to surface by non-stop pinning bombardment by PLAN FFG and DDGs, and Y9Q.

Either way, there was an "unscheduled" interaction/real life exercise of cat and mouse game between submarine and surface ships.

 

[MwRYum]

What makes a submarine to surface near Liaoning Group?
(1) to demostrat to PLAN that it had successfully trailing Liaoning group without being detected, or
(2) it had been detected and was forced to surface by non-stop pinning bombardment by PLAN FFG and DDGs, and Y9Q.

Either way, there was an "unscheduled" interaction/real life exercise of cat and mouse game between submarine and surface ships.

If it was traveling in direction that's in parallel or towards the Liaoning CBG; if it was "away" from the said group, then it was the proverbial throwing in the towel.

And that's the information missing thus far...?

 

[KenC]

What makes a submarine to surface near Liaoning Group?
(1) to demostrat to PLAN that it had successfully trailing Liaoning group without being detected, or
(2) it had been detected and was forced to surface by non-stop pinning bombardment by PLAN FFG and DDGs, and Y9Q.

Either way, there was an "unscheduled" interaction/real life exercise of cat and mouse game between submarine and surface ships.

To do (1) seems rather short sighted and childish. This would only encourage PLAN to strive harder and learn from shortcomings.
On the other hand, it is relatively easy for PLAN to predict where US submarines will appear, given that Liaoning group in SCS will obviously attract submarine like ant attracted to honey. So it could also be a ploy for PLAN to gain real experience in anti submarine activity.

 

[Intrepid]

(2) it had been detected and was forced to surface by non-stop pinning bombardment by PLAN FFG and DDGs, and Y9Q.

Is this a common practice for forcing submarines to surface? I am not very knowledgeable about submarines and have never read about this.

 

[MwRYum]

To do (1) seems rather short sighted and childish. This would only encourage PLAN to strive harder and learn from shortcomings.
On the other hand, it is relatively easy for PLAN to predict where US submarines will appear, given that Liaoning group in SCS will obviously attract submarine like ant attracted to honey. So it could also be a ploy for PLAN to gain real experience in anti submarine activity.

Actually, doing the (1) fits exactly to the ongoing US policies, the order would not be resisted at Capitol Hill / White House / Pentagon / Langley, besides the US themselves would be just as eager to find out for themselves the capabilities of PLAN ASW effort.

As such, if it's a (1) in the next few days we should expect a glaring news headline on CNN/MSNBC/Fox News/BBC , with "leaked stories" of some "details" to the encounter; if it's a (2) it's be hushed up.

 

[H2O]

To do (1) seems rather short sighted and childish.

No. Remember the Kitty Hawk incident? And apparently there was

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