CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

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Yodello

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Ever wondered why the Kuznetsov smokes so much ?

This is the state of the boiler and pretty much sums up the Russian navy as a whole

They have actually been patching this thing up over the years shocking

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My goodness.....!

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bd popeye

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My goodness.....!

Where did you find that picture?
Source please, if you don't mind?

C'mon now.:rolleyes:. if you use the Chrome browser just right click on any image and select "search Google for image". And most times you can find multiple sources. Easy..

use google..all of the sources are in Chinese or Russian;

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try this one;

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Hendrik_2000

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Now this guy supposed to be an expert He dissed Liaoning as primitive But he said this
The choice of power plant depend on the operational requirement of the Ship China are of interest is close nearby So nuclear power is not needed It might change in the future

"That's going to be the biggest challenge for China," Funaiole said. "Trying to figure out how to get a nuclear-powered reactor on the ship."
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The diesel-fueled steam turbine power plants are less efficient and reduce the speed and service life of the carrier,
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to Geopolitical Futures. The Liao
ning is believed to have a top speed of roughly 20 knots.

Now there is no such thing as diesel fueled steam turbine The boiler is fueled by bunker C or oil But not diesel And it is not diesel engine that powered CV 16
 

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By the way, do we know how the PLAN designated its ships? In the USN we have the typical CVN-78 or whatever, but is there something comparable to the PLAN?

AFAIK the often mentioned designation CV-16 - just as above - is surely not official and most likely only a spotter-created one?

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Somewhere in this forum somebody told us, that they have no prefix. It is simply "16 Liaoning".

I somewhere think I aw an image of another vessel - not sure, a Type 054 I think - fixed on a pier with the gangway attached and written something like "CNS - China Navy Ship", but unfortunately I cannot find it anymore.
 

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I somewhere think I aw an image of another vessel - not sure, a Type 054 I think - fixed on a pier with the gangway attached and written something like "CNS - China Navy Ship", but unfortunately I cannot find it anymore.

With the help of "Icloo"/PDF:


As far as I know the only official designation that I have come across is PLANS = PLA Navy Ships. There is no abbreviation prefix for different class of ships. Some time we see wordings like DDG and FFG on banners, but the usage is not consistent, and could be unofficial.

Traditionally, from the late Qing dynasty, through Republic of China and People's Republic of China, normally a ship would be called by its class and name, example, Light Cruiser Chungking/ 重庆号輕型巡洋舰 (ROC Navy), Destroyer Shenzhen/深圳号驱逐舰 (PRC Navy).

This photo was taken onboard type 052D destroyer PLANS Changsha

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gelgoog

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Now this guy supposed to be an expert He dissed Liaoning as primitive But he said this
The choice of power plant depend on the operational requirement of the Ship China are of interest is close nearby So nuclear power is not needed It might change in the future

"That's going to be the biggest challenge for China," Funaiole said. "Trying to figure out how to get a nuclear-powered reactor on the ship."
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The diesel-fueled steam turbine power plants are less efficient and reduce the speed and service life of the carrier,
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to Geopolitical Futures. The Liao
ning is believed to have a top speed of roughly 20 knots.

Now there is no such thing as diesel fueled steam turbine The boiler is fueled by bunker C or oil But not diesel And it is not diesel engine that powered CV 16

Sure. Steam turbines are typically fueled by crude oil or something close to it. However there are diesel powered carriers. The Queen Elizabeth class for example uses 2x 36MW gas turbines and 4x marine diesel engines with 11.6 MW with 4x 20MW electric propulsion engines. So that class is basically diesel-electric powered.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Sure. Steam turbines are typically fueled by crude oil or something close to it. However there are diesel powered carriers. The Queen Elizabeth class for example uses 2x 36MW gas turbines and 4x marine diesel engines with 11.6 MW with 4x 20MW electric propulsion engines. So that class is basically diesel-electric powered.

No Gas turbine fuel is kerosene(jet fuel) and NOT diesel completely different fuel. Most of diesel generator are used as auxiliary power plant and NOT the main driver of propulsion system
 
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