CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

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Iron Man

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Isn't CV-17 capable of housing 35 J-15 fighter jets.
I highly doubt that. 12 in the hangar and 12 on the flight deck (along with helicopters scattered above and below) is probably going to be the best that CV-16 and CV-17 are going to be able to handle on a routine operational basis.
 

FORBIN

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More than 24 J-15 and clearly 32 - 36 + 4 Z-18J AEW, 2 Z-18 Trp/SAR and 6 Z-18F ASW plus 2 Z-9/C/D
for Z-18s later not enough in service.

And It is slightly modified and upgraded compared to Liaoning and increased storage capacity for ammunition and fuel.

I have for Kuznetsov 2500 t of fuel aviation which is clearly inferior to QE 3600 t and even Charle de Gaulle more small but reactors save room 3200 tons + 600 t ammos.
More difficult to have ammos qty.

USA have 9000 and 3000 t Ford 5 - 10 % in more !!!
 
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Hendrik_2000

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A year end tribute to
Chinese Navy - Cao Xianjian: sustain serious injuries but persist with training because military care about me. From Henri K video
 

kurutoga

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are both carriers designed to operate in tandem or as their own strike group?

if we ignore 016 is a training ship, Chinese carriers will be created in pairs just to make sure at any given time, at least one among that pair is available (while the other one is in repair/maintained) . I suppose if a dual ship group is the intention we need at a minimal 3 ships of the same type maybe 4
 
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FORBIN

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if we ignore 016 is a training ship, Chinese carriers will be created in pairs just to make sure at any given time, at least one among that pair is available (while the other one is in repair/maintained) . I suppose if a dual ship group is the intention we need at a minimal 3 ships of the same type maybe 4
Training ships is now a useless designation since a while don't exist the last was a Forrestal mid 1990's
 

Intrepid

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There is precedence for that, multi carrier groups afford greater aircraft deployment, faster sortie and multi tasking. You also would not need as many ships to protect them as would 2 separate battle groups.
Example of multi carrier task forces with three or two carriers from the book "The USS John F. Kennedy: in Detail & Scale", page 11:
"At the beginning of the gulf war, KENNEDY, AMERIKA and SARATOGA operated on a six day rotation cycle. Two of the carriers would launch strike aircraft while the third would move to an area in the Red Sea, known as 'Gasoline Alley', for two days to replenish munitions, stores and fuel. This meant that each of the three carriers was on line for four days conducting either a morning or evening flight operations schedule, then off line for two days to replenish. The off line carrier was still tasked with standing anti-air warfare and airborne early warning alerts, but it did not conduct flight operations against targets in Iraq or Kuweit.

When AMERICA moved from the Red Sea to the Persian Gulf on February 7, KENNEDY and SARATOGA then changed to a different six day cycle. For two days of the six, both carriers were on line, then for the next two days one carrier was off line in 'Gasoline Alley'. During the last two days of the six day cycle, the other carrier moved off line to replenish. This meant that during the six day cycle there would be two days when both were on line, two days when only KENNEDY was on line and two days when only SARATOGA was on line."

In WWII, Korea and Vietnam there were similar schedules. And if you look at
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kwaigonegin

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Liaoning is definitely not just a training ship in the official sense of the word. Yes, she has and will continue to be utilize for at sea training for green crews etc. since PLAN is still very new to the world of naval air operations but as to quote the good emperor and sith lord, she is a fully armed and operational battle station.
 

FORBIN

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Liaoning is definitely not just a training ship in the official sense of the word. Yes, she has and will continue to be utilize for at sea training for green crews etc. since PLAN is still very new to the world of naval air operations but as to quote the good emperor and sith lord, she is a fully armed and operational battle station.
But completely severals countries have only one and not new Spain, France, China, Russia, India the ships do both and it completely possible I know something about it if carrier is reliable more difficult with Kuznetsov !
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USA have about 5 CVNs on each coast and he succeeds
 
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