CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

[Franklin]

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Even just the European NATO members spend nearly four times as much on defence than Russia and nearly half of Russian defence spending is on other areas than Europe so it is no wonder that some parts of the navy are neglected.

The Russians are spending more than 5% of GDP on defence. They can't keep it up without some sacrifices elsewhere. The Russian defense budget is likely to fall in the coming years. They also got an nuclear arsenal of 8000 warheads they need to fund. And the Russians want to focus on air and land power. So yes they are coming up short for the navy.

 

[MwRYum]

Anybody like a fresh hot rumour of CV-17 Liaoning open house?

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「遼寧艦」慶回歸下月訪港 或開放參觀

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2017年6月22日

【星島日報報道】香港回歸二十周年，盛傳中央領導人下周將率代表團訪港，出席回歸二十周年慶祝大會、主持新一屆特區政府就職典禮。本報獲悉，作為慶祝回歸二十周年的一部分，中國首艘航空母艦「遼寧艦」下月也將訪問香港，並擬首度開放給市民參觀，讓港人有機會登上「遼寧艦」，了解國家國防實力。

日期擬定領導人訪港之後

消息透露，「遼寧艦」將於七月訪港，暫時未清楚具體日期，但將在中央領導人訪港之後，也屬於慶祝回歸二十周年的一部分，將由中國海軍高層將領率團。由於「遼寧艦」體積巨大，不會停泊在維多利亞港。

據悉，「遼寧艦」訪港是由國家主席、中央軍委主席習近平親自拍板的，希望讓港人有機會親睹這艘航母，了解國家海軍實力和發展，增強民族自豪感。「遼寧艦」目前尚未開放給內地民眾參觀，如果港人有機會登艦，將是非常難得的機會。

習近平拍板 展現海軍實力

資料顯示，停泊在青島的「遼寧艦」很少對外開放。二○一五年四月，美國國防部長哈格爾曾登艦參觀，這是其首次對外國客人開放，之後也曾接待美國海軍艦艇長代表團及俄羅斯海軍總司令。

「遼寧艦」船體購自烏克蘭，前身是前蘇聯未建造完工的航母「瓦良格號」，由中資購買，二○○三年抵達大連港，由軍方更改安裝及繼續建造。二○一二年九月，「遼寧艦」在大連造船廠正式交付海軍，使中國成為世界上第十個擁有航母的國家，具有里程碑式的戰略意義。

「遼寧艦」服役將近五年，曾經幾次赴南海進行遠洋訓練。去年底和今年初，「遼寧艦」和數艘驅護艦，以及多架殲15艦載戰鬥機和多型艦載直升機組成的航母編隊，組織長時間連續航行並交替轉換海區訓練，跨越渤海、黃海、東海和南海等海區，航經宮古海峽、巴士海峽、台灣海峽等海峽水道，引起國際關注。

內地軍事專家尹卓稱，經過實際使用武器等環節的訓練，該艦現在已具備「初始作戰能力」，並從技術訓練轉入戰術訓練。今年四月，首艘國產航空母艦001A型航母正式下水，可以停放三十六架殲十五戰機，作戰能力較「遼寧艦」大幅提高。本報中國組

Here's the summarised version, just what relevent to us:

Sources tell the press that the CV-17 Liaoning will make a port of call to Hong Kong in July, as part of the 20th anniversary celebration of HK return to China. No other details available at this time, such as when and where the carrier will laid anchor, and most importantly, would there be an open house event.

 

[FirnCavalry]

According to Zhiguo Wang, the principle system designer of CV-16, they had accomlished the reform work within 15 months, with 15 co-leagues lost -- died because of hard work. He told the story when facing the reporter of China Daily Youth.

 

[jobjed]

According to Zhiguo Wang, the principle system designer of CV-16, they had accomlished the reform work within 15 months, with 15 co-leagues lost -- died because of hard work. He told the story when facing the reporter of China Daily Youth.

Well, that's f*cking stupid. 701 Institute needs to enforce mandatory holidays and breaks. This is a waste of 15 motivated and talented engineers who could have added an additional 30 years of service to the country. What a goddamn waste.

 

[Janiz]

within 15 months, with 15 co-leagues lost

Well, this pretty unusual. And interesting.

 

[FirnCavalry]

Well, that's f*cking stupid. 701 Institute needs to enforce mandatory holidays and breaks. This is a waste of 15 motivated and talented engineers who could have added an additional 30 years of service to the country. What a goddamn waste.

I'm terribly sorry and have to apologize. After double-checking the original news, I don't find the detail of those 15 lost member's tale. So maybe some of the died in accidents, not only hard works.

 

[FirnCavalry]

Well, this pretty unusual. And interesting.

I believe this one had not been included in the upper-mentioned 15-people -- Yang Luo, the J-15 project chief leader and manager, who passed by of AMI during the J-15's maiden taking-off/landing test on Liaoning CV-16. He was on board of Liaoning during the test.

 

[latenlazy]

I'm terribly sorry and have to apologize. After double-checking the original news, I don't find the detail of those 15 lost member's tale. So maybe some of the died in accidents, not only hard works.

Can you share the source?

 

[Jura The idiot]

Can you share the source?

I now put
China+Daily+Youth+Zhiguo+Wang+aircraft+carrier

(which is info I found inside
#1113 FirnCavalry, Today at 9:35 AM
I now attached Like to mark this post)

into google-search window, the top hit:
The sacrifices behind China's first aircraft carrier
2017-06-23 17:18 GMT+8

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China launched its first aircraft carrier in 2012, but developing the Liaoning did not come without sacrifices on the part of its architects and engineers: a deputy chief architect was unable to be with his dying wife, 15 other workers lost their lives while striving to finish 30 months' worth of work in half that time.

These stories demonstrate the human toll of these high-profile military projects. Still, for those involved, the sacrifices were not in vain.

Overcoming difficulties

On April 26, China launched its first domestically-built aircraft carrier, the Type 001A. It was the country's second aircraft carrier after the Liaoning, which was a refitted Soviet Union-made carrier put into commission in the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy in 2012.

The ability to build aircraft carriers demonstrates a high level in a country's comprehensive national strength, particularly sophistication in industrial manufacturing, science and technology as well as large-scale system integration, Sun Guangsu, deputy chief architect on the Type 001A and an architect also on the Liaoning, said during a recent CCTV special program.

It was the first public appearance by an architect of the domestically-built carrier.

Sun said the development of the Liaoning laid a solid foundation for China to make its own aircraft carrier.

He recalled the difficulties in refitting the Soviet-made carrier – essentially transforming a "dilapidated ship shell" into a full-fledged aircraft carrier. "When I entered it, I saw complete chaos and stuff like abandoned beer bottles, cans… All the equipment was broken," he said.

Sun also noted China's lack of experience and know-how in aircraft carriers at the time. "Since we had never done it before, nor did we have materials, standards, norms or architect teams, it was rather difficult," he recalled.

Bidding farewell to loved ones, colleagues

Recalling the sacrifices made by many on the project, Sun said a deputy chief architect for the refit was not even able to bid a final farewell to his dying wife.

The architect's wife once came to see them as they were immersed in work. "A few days later, (the architect) told me his wife had been diagnosed with malignant cancer," Sun said. She passed away before long while her husband was on a long business trip.

"He really put all his effort, wisdom and experience into the development of China's aircraft carriers," Sun said of his colleague's commitment to the undertaking.

In an earlier interview with China Youth Daily, Wang Zhiguo, another architect on the Liaoning, said the refitting project was done under tremendous time constraints: in just 15 months, they completed 30 months' worth of work.

"Fifteen colleagues in one department sacrificed their lives," he added.

Speaking on behalf of those who participated in the development of China's two aircraft carriers, Sun however said they felt proud of their efforts and contributions to the country.

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looks pretty official to me

 

[s002wjh]

thats mess up especially good engineers are hard to come by. The new engineer replace them need spend alot time to understand what they did.