CV-16, CV-17 STOBAR carrier thread (001/Liaoning, 002/Shandong)

[Deino]

We should keep watch to see if KJ-600 model shows up on Liaoning too. If modification to Liaoning are required to handle J-35 then now would be a good time to also add any additional modification required for KJ-600 too if it's also to go STOBAR. There's been quite a few people who's been saying "all the new aircrafts intended for Fujian are also intended for Liaoning and Shandong" or something to that effect, here's Cute Orca just now:
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In fact, regarding the KJ-600 off the two Kuznetsov-class carriers I remain sceptical, but IMO it also raises another question on the current J-15B‘s status? We still haven‘t seen any production aircraft built and even more we heard rumours, the J-35 may have been tested off the PLANS-17„Shandong“ … so is the J-35 progressing faster & J-15B slower than expected?

 

[vincent]

In fact, regarding the KJ-600 off the two Kuznetsov-class carriers I remain sceptical, but IMO it also raises another question on the current J-15B‘s status? We still haven‘t seen any production aircraft built and even more we heard rumours, the J-35 may have been tested off the PLANS-17„Shandong“ … so is the J-35 progressing faster & J-15B slower than expected?

If a J-15b lands on Liaoning or Shandong, will anyone see it if PLAN doesn’t publish a picture?

 

[tphuang]

In fact, regarding the KJ-600 off the two Kuznetsov-class carriers I remain sceptical, but IMO it also raises another question on the current J-15B‘s status? We still haven‘t seen any production aircraft built and even more we heard rumours, the J-35 may have been tested off the PLANS-17„Shandong“ … so is the J-35 progressing faster & J-15B slower than expected?

Actually, Shilao people talked about this a while back. KJ-600 off CV-16/17 is theoretically possible if you use rocket assisted launch. In practice, I doubt we will see it

 

[PersianPrince]

I think operating KJ-600 on CV-16/17 will be just an alternative for emergencies. The very long take-off distance it need will cause trouble on the deck, and using rockets to assist take-off is dangerous.

 

[F.L.]

I think operating KJ-600 on CV-16/17 will be just an alternative for emergencies. The very long take-off distance it need will cause trouble on the deck, and using rockets to assist take-off is dangerous.

However, on the Kuznetsov class, the long take-off station offers a significant distance.

Already, Argentina's ARA Indepencia had long take-off marks to enable S-2 Trackers to be launched without a catapult.

 

[Ironhide]

A good look and doesn't seem Psed

 

[Hanna YJ Chen]

Anyone can help me this, please: is that exactly one or two mock-up?
If two, both can be told J31?
If yes (J31), is this first time we saw two same-model mock-up? What does it indicates?

 

[Deino]

Anyone can help me this, please: is that exactly one or two mock-up?
If two, both can be told J31?
If yes (J31), is this first time we saw two same-model mock-up? What does it indicates?

In fact I do not understand your question? Why determines the number of mock-ups the designation?

IMO it is clear as hell that the PLAN NA's next fighter is the J-35, aka any mock-up on deck of a PLAN carrier - and indeed it seems there are two (one on the Liaoning and one on the Fujian - is a J-35 mock-up!

So far the J-31 is at best a project for a land-based derivate of the J-35, nothing more.

 

[by78]

A good look and doesn't seem Psed

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It appears the windows have been modified (the number reduced, resulting in larger openings).

 

[solongbd]

It appears the windows have been modified (the number reduced, resulting in larger openings).

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The modification was carried out in 2018, during the only period when two PLAN carriers appeared together in the same frame of pictures.