CV-16, CV-17 STOBAR carrier thread (001/Liaoning, 002/Shandong)

[Temstar]

exactly, it's quite impressive to see them being able to operate J-15s in such tight spaces.

In the same Shilao podcast, they made a point to talk about how Indian Navy's Vikrant was too narrow and doesn't have any margin, so can't operate anything other than Mig-29K or have efficient operation. It was made in the same section where they talked about CV-16/17 and 003 are all wide enough to comfortably accommodate J-15 operation implying that it is capable of faster operation.

Given that CV-16/17 are based on Admiral Kutznetsov class, it's quite an impressive feat to see how PLAN has been able to be operate a much larger fleet and deck operation than the Russians.

Su-33/J-15 isn't that much bigger than Mig-29K when both are folded. Mig-29K is 7.5m wide with folded, Su-33/J-15 is 7.4m although it's quite a bit longer. It pays for this by having folding horizontal stabilizers which adds weight and complexity.

INS Vikramaditya lift is like a bit over 8m wide. Some suspect Russians deliberately made the lift really narrow to limit the ship to Mig-29K so India have to keep buying from them.

 

[antiterror13]

Su-33/J-15 isn't that much bigger than Mig-29K when both are folded. Mig-29K is 7.5m wide with folded, Su-33/J-15 is 7.4m although it's quite a bit longer. It pays for this by having folding horizontal stabilizers which adds weight and complexity.

INS Vikramaditya lift is like a bit over 8m wide. Some suspect Russians deliberately made the lift really narrow to limit the ship to Mig-29K so India have to keep buying from them.

really surprised that Indian didn't realise that

 

[Michaelsinodef]

really surprised that Indian didn't realise that

To my understanding the Vikramaditya is barely used anyways (it mostly stays in port).

 

[Strangelove]

CV-16 Liaoning crew ready to rock...

 

[escobar]

From Japan Navy

 

[plawolf]

You've seen STOBAR carriers, you've even seen CATOBAR ones, but now get ready for... RATOBAR?

Are there any current or historical precendents for launching planes off carriers with rocket boosters? Even moreso off of a ramp?

Plenty actually. The USN launched and landed a C130 off a carrier before.

 

[Tam]

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I guess the Japanese are tracking the ship closely in escort range.

 

[Intrepid]

I guess the Japanese are tracking the ship closely in escort range.

I agree! It's a good opportunity for them to learn how to run an aircraft carrier formation

 

[escobar]

I guess the Japanese are tracking the ship closely in escort range.

from their last report, DDG 101 no longer with the carrier formation. I wonder where it go

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521818644367671296

 

[Strangelove]