CV-16, CV-17 STOBAR carrier thread (001/Liaoning, 002/Shandong)
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asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
would like to see this video ? there's a LHD and Type 901 Tanker in the back too and the LHD has helicopters on it
good to see naval warships + air components in action, busy on the sea and in the air
good to see naval warships + air components in action, busy on the sea and in the air
There is one J-15 at the back of the angled deck, can it take off from there without the ski jump?Launching from all three takeoff spots.
lcloo
Captain
No. However, a Y5 light transport can fly off Shandong easily with-out ski ramp.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
sometimes I am shocked at the overhang some of these Carriers have and we never get to appreciate it until we get such a side shot
I filmed Liaoning in Dalian
Is it possible to retrofit catapults after removing the ramp and re-fitting a flat deck to these carriers? Because China now has developed EMALS as well as catapult-capable aircraft. It would be a pain to have different aircraft for different carriers. Also, I think KJ-600 would not be able to operate from these carriers either.
It is not appropriate. An aircraft carrier is a complex giant building with various necessary cabins and equipment under the deck; so it is easy to remove the rocker, but it is difficult to install an electromagnetic catapult.
My expectation for aircraft carriers No. 16 and 17 is to be similar to the amphibious assault ship USS America, without docking bays, and capable of air strikes and beyond-visual-range amphibious assaults. This is the exciting transformation.
We already know that J-15T can operate off the STOBAR carriers. We can also expect J-35 to do this, given the mockup on Liaoning last year. Considering the age of Liaoning and the mentioned flexibility of existing aircraft its arguably not worthwile pursuing dramatic modifications, even if it were in any way feasible. Any overhaul also takes those carriers out of service, and as we saw with Liaoning, even mild updates still take many months to complete.
CV-16/17 will probably continue training crews for some time, while Fujian comes online. To say nothing of any notional new carriers, which at this stage are arguably about a decade away from meaningful service. By the time a substantial CATOBAR capability is available, Liaoning will have reached end of life, and Shandong is probably not that far behind.