Crisis in the Ukraine

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Sputnik

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Second "Tochka-U"(SS-21) captured by DPR:
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DPR Gvozdika
[video=youtube;5A7B2iTcJl4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A7B2iTcJl4[/video]
Near Lugansk(LPR forces)
[video=youtube;DiV7I_wX7HU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiV7I_wX7HU[/video]
 

Dannhill

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Re: NATO creates 10,000 plus new force to counter Moscow

If the separatists go too far west and Kiev felt threatened then they will call for NATO military assistance to stop the Russian invaders.

If they go too far East they'll get trouble with "terrorism".
 
A moment ago I happened to find yesterday
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had set up the Board
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which will watch over the content of (my translation -- I don't know much of Ukrainian -- feel free to correct it)
"Russian films, TV series and mini-series" so that they don't "provoke hatred towards Ukrainians, popularize Russian Special Forces, disgrace Ukrainians" ... the Board will soon announce the guidelines for this
 

Dannhill

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And we now have the smoking gun that pins Putin and his Russian Spetnaz leading the invasion against peace loving Ukraine.

"Strelkov specified the casualties from each of them, saying that Polish private military company ASBS (Analizy Systemowe Bartlomiej Sienkiewicz) Othago lost 139 mercenaries, American Greystone Ltd, a subsidiary of Vehicle Services Company LLC belonging to Blackwater/XE/Academi, lost 40 fighters, while Academi itself lost 125 personnel."

Oops! Wrong mercenaries. This is the right quote!

"Earlier this week, the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Aleksandr Zakharchenko, revealed in an interview to Russian media that up to 4,000 Russian citizens, many of them ex-servicemen, have joined anti-government fighters during Kiev’s crackdown in Ukraine’s east."

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Franklin

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Seven European nations will create a new one division strong or 10000 man strong force to counter Russia. And Britain hopes to sale more arms through this venture.

Nato states create new force to counter Moscow

Britain and six other states are to create a new joint expeditionary force of at least 10,000 personnel to bolster Nato's power in response to Russian aggression in Ukraine.

The force will be one of the boldest steps taken by any group of Nato members in response to the crisis. The aim is to create a fully functioning, division-sized force for rapid deployment and regular, frequent exercises. Officials involved in the planning say it will have the capacity to increase significantly in size.

The force will incorporate air and naval units as well as ground troops and will be led by British commanders, with other participating nations contributing a range of specialist troops and units. Countries involved at present include Denmark, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Norway and the Netherlands. Canada has also expressed an interest in taking part.

The announcement of the force's creation is expected next week by British prime minister David Cameron in his position as host of the biennial Nato summit in Wales. The model for the new JEF will be Britain's expeditionary force with France, which has been years in the making and is due to be fully operational by 2016. Co-ordinating a force across seven nations is likely to be an even bigger endeavor.

Russia's invasion of Crimea and armed intervention in Ukraine has left Nato scrambling to find robust policy responses to counter further aggression from Moscow.

While the 28-state alliance has stopped short of permanently deploying troops in eastern Europe - a measure that would violate several long-standing agreements with Russia - it has committed to a program of significant military exercises and the development of more flexible, rapid reaction forces.

Though details of the new UK-led expeditionary force have to be ironed out, it will probably involve regular significant exercises in Europe and elsewhere, according to one senior military officer involved in planning it.

Such substantial measures will be essential in sending a message to the Kremlin, analysts say. "We need to end the idea of different zones of security in Europe," said Jonathan Eyal, international director at the London-based Royal United Services Institute.

"We need to be talking about propositioning, regular rotation of troops and making it very clear that we do not accept that the eastern Europeans are in some different category of membership of Nato."

While Britain will undertake much of the initial legwork in organizing the structure and logistics, UK officials hope it will bring significant benefits. The British army has been intensively lobbying for more deployments abroad in order to keep it fighting fit. For the first time in their history, almost all of Britain's land forces will be permanently based on home soil after the withdrawal from Afghanistan is complete.

The venture will also be a powerful diplomatic tool in cementing relationships with eastern European economics, officials believe. And the requirements for participating states to integrate into a harmonious command and control structure may produce benefits in encouraging the use of British-produced equipment.

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delft

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The Dutch foreign minister has written Friday in answer to questions from members of parliament that the local people who collected human remains in the first week after the crash of MH17 have done as well as possible and that is proven by the fact that the Dutch police group who came after them recovered hardly any human remains. This according to an article in my Dutch newspaper.
 
I just noticed ИТАР-ТАСС had recently reported (I'm sorry but can't find a link in English)
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somebody "during a day in Donetsk" tried to assassin
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but failed (only a driver was wounded) ... I don't know if it's true or important, but during the conflict this is the first report of that kind I've heard about
 
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