Crisis in the Ukraine

unfolding story of the direct Russian Army involvement in Donbass ("they" called NORTHERNERS now from the favorite source of many posters here:


get your own translation if you care (my literal of a small part of the closing chapter:

"I expect more details to be revealed about the inconspicuous, but important job the "VOENTORG WORKERS" did during those few weeks when the "NORTHERN WIND" was blowing, bringing catastrophe to the Junta troops. I hope then my post from August
(I quote it in http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/members-club-room/crisis-ukraine-96-6939.html#post309806)
will become more understandable. At that time it was possible to say only so much, now a little more, and a few months or years later, even more [will be disclosed].
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But what's most important, officially there had been not Russian Army troops on the territories of
and

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Seriously, if there are official Russian units in east Ukraine I'm sure US and NATO would have no problems getting drone videos of the unit movement in action.

I cannot understand the assumption that Putin will send his soldiers to fight as militia with shortages of everything that those militia are facing even now.
Or maybe it is assumed that Russia is some 3rd world banana republic fielding in poorly equipped soldiers.

I am sure we have all seen videos of the fighting for Donestsk airport and I seriously doubt anyone can say those are Russian units, short of tanks, and heavy weapons.
We have seen Crimea and no one can doubt those are real Russian soldiers there.

For those who have absolutely no idea of what a Russia unit is like in the field looks like here's Ron:

Cassad's video of Strelkov on the opening of the "PX", their euphemism for Russian unofficial grey arms market supply opening up as there are signs that Kiev is about to launch their new offensive.

At long last CNN is reporting the truth on east Ukraine. Obviously they just can't keep believing the bullshit fed to them by official channels for so long.



And from the source:

Dannhill said:

Seriously, if there are official Russian units in east Ukraine I'm sure US and NATO would have no problems getting drone videos of the unit movement in action.

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Dan, for once, I want to disagree with you. If there are official Russian units in east Ukraine, there would be videos taken on the ground by civilians.

Ukrainian army soldiers with an artillery field gun maneuver on the coastline near the eastern Ukrainian city of Mariupol
Picture: Alexander Khudoteply/AFP/Getty Images



An impersonator of Star Wars character 'Darth Vader' with some storm troopers stands on the roof of a campaigning van during an election campaign event of the Ukrainian Internet Party, in downtown Kiev. The party's contenders with legally changed names resembling 'Star Wars' saga characters such as Darth Vader, Yoda, Padme Amidala, Chewbacca and Palpatine were registered by Ukraine's Central Election Committee as candidates of Ukrainian Internet Party for the country's parliamentary elections planned to be held on 26 October 2014.
Picture: Sergey Dolzhenko/EPA



I will now get back to bottling my Malbec

Jura said:

unfolding story of the direct Russian Army involvement in Donbass ("they" called NORTHERNERS now from the favorite source of many posters here:

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get your own translation if you care (my literal of a small part of the closing chapter:

"I expect more details to be revealed about the inconspicuous, but important job the "VOENTORG WORKERS" did during those few weeks when the "NORTHERN WIND" was blowing, bringing catastrophe to the Junta troops. I hope then my post from August
(I quote it in http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/members-club-room/crisis-ukraine-96-6939.html#post309806)
will become more understandable. At that time it was possible to say only so much, now a little more, and a few months or years later, even more [will be disclosed].
...
But what's most important, officially there had been not Russian Army troops on the territories of

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I translated the whole article using Google translate. The result was stodgy as hell and some background script manage to crash Firefox about three times.
Despite this I muddled through.
At no point does it claim that Russian Regular forces were fighting in the Ukraine and in fact vehemently denies this. It does little more than reiterate that which is already accepted, Russian volunteers and advisers, plus the presence of some special forces on the ground in a none combat role. If there was anything new in this article, it was perhaps that the Special Forces were not simply doing reconnaissance for Russia but may have been providing targeting information to Novorossiyan Artillery Units (no doubt being commanded by volunteer Russian Regulars).

In short nothing more than we already knew or already accepted as being quite likely.
Still no armoured columns as claimed by the Ukraine and US State Dept.

Miragedriver said:

Ukrainian army soldiers with an artillery field gun maneuver on the coastline near the eastern Ukrainian city of Mariupol
Picture: Alexander Khudoteply/AFP/Getty Images

An impersonator of Star Wars character 'Darth Vader' with some storm troopers stands on the roof of a campaigning van during an election campaign event of the Ukrainian Internet Party, in downtown Kiev. The party's contenders with legally changed names resembling 'Star Wars' saga characters such as Darth Vader, Yoda, Padme Amidala, Chewbacca and Palpatine were registered by Ukraine's Central Election Committee as candidates of Ukrainian Internet Party for the country's parliamentary elections planned to be held on 26 October 2014.
Picture: Sergey Dolzhenko/EPA



I will now get back to bottling my Malbec

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oh krap! what is bd doing in the Ukraine, prolly over there "sqeezin heads with that enormous brain of his" bd come home, we need you to work on these fellers over here first! then you can go on our "change the world" campaign????

Background Noise, Keeping the troops stirred, simple Paranoia or is something up?

The Saker is publishing today that there is real concern that the Ukrainians are about to breach the Cease Fire agreements and launch a massive offensive against Novorossiyan Forces



We have heard similar dire warnings previously, but certain key factors do seem to be lining up for this one and of course the rational of Maidan Regime having nothing to lose from further distraction this winter are very credible.

Lets watch for start of orchestrated media campaign blaming the Cease Fire collapse on "Pootin"

The problem of the sale of gas to Kiev has been solved except that Kiev can't pay and EU, US and IMF won't pay, according to RT.com:
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So what else can Kiev do?